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[adelgadoiis]

No, I got the point and appreciate aldegadoiss post and am in agreement with his position. I was striving for historical accuracy.

Thank you microscope. You got the point I was trying to make and I will go into the public access PACER account today and get the exact USC that he was charged with and the USC that he actually pled to so that no one else can change the focus or spirit of my post.

[x1811]

Really? The point that aldelgadoiss was making (I think) wasn't so much about the Plame story but rather an example of how bad people in government become so power corrupt that they are willing to destroy the lives and careers of good employees with lies and not lose a bit of sleep over it. He/She was relating Fair Game to those in ATF who stomp on people who dare to speak the truth. Thanks for the clarification but you missed the point.

No, I got the point and appreciate aldegadoiss post and am in agreement with his position. I was striving for historical accuracy.

[x1811]

Today I went to see the new movie Fair Game. The movie is about the unlawful act of Scooter Libby who publicly exposed the true identity of a CIA Covert Operations Officer named Valerie Plame. Plame is married to former Ambassador Joe Wilson who in 2002 traveled to the country of Niger to determine the validity of intelligence that Iraq attempted to obtain an enriched Uranium derivative to make nuclear weapons. Wilson determined that this intelligence was not valid and reported his findings to the CIA. The Bush administration used inaccurate information about the Iraqi efforts to justify the war in Iraq and the rest is history. This movie perfectly demonstrates to the world how some people in the US government can use their position or access to government information to mislead our leaders and fellow Americans. As a result of this misinformation campaign, the American Government will waste billions of dollars on efforts that lead to unproductive ends. Many of us who have stepped forward to report wrong doing can empathize with Valerie Plame and Mr. Wilson. We know what it feels like to drum up the courage to come forward despite our co-workers telling us that they will deny ever making a statement because they do not want to be part of rocking the boat. We know the uneasy feeling of paying for attorneys and dealing with the stress that comes with telling the truth. We know the feeling of thinking I have no choice when we see things are being done wrong or illegally. We just keep the faith that true justice will prevail and that the dishonest perpetrators will eventually be held accountable for all of their improper acts. I recommend the movie if you think that the stories we put up on this web site are not the truth. It is not a funny movie nor is it an action packed movie. It is about bad people in our government who will try anything to discredit and ruin the lives of honest government employees. So if you think this web site is full of a bunch of whiners and disgruntled employees making comments, I suggest you see the movie and if you really want to test the waters, try reporting some misconduct and see how quickly your perspective will be changed.

Scooter Libby did not expose Varie Plame. Richard Armitage, former Deputy Secretary of State was responible for disclosing Plames identity. He told journalist Robert Novak who published the story in Newsweek. Armitage stood by silently while the government launched a massive investigation centering on Vice President Dick Cheney's Cheif of Staff Scooter Libby. Libby wanted to only discredit Plame's husband, Joe Wilson. He was charged with making a false statement to the FBI regarding the investigation and was charged and convicted of lying, not for exposing Plame. Libby's sentence was later commuted by President Bush and was not pardoned. Armitage later confessed to outing Plame on 60 Minutes. Nothing happened to him. Hollywood cares only about selling popcorn, not about truth and accuracy.

[sierra donaven]

Thank you.

[adelgadoiis]

Today I went to see the new movie Fair Game. The movie is about the unlawful act of Scooter Libby who publicly exposed the true identity of a CIA Covert Operations Officer named Valerie Plame. Plame is married to former Ambassador Joe Wilson who in 2002 traveled to the country of Niger to determine the validity of intelligence that Iraq attempted to obtain an enriched Uranium derivative to make nuclear weapons. Wilson determined that this intelligence was not valid and reported his findings to the CIA. The Bush administration used inaccurate information about the Iraqi efforts to justify the war in Iraq and the rest is history. This movie perfectly demonstrates to the world how some people in the US government can use their position or access to government information to mislead our leaders and fellow Americans. As a result of this misinformation campaign, the American Government will waste billions of dollars on efforts that lead to unproductive ends. Many of us who have stepped forward to report wrong doing can empathize with Valerie Plame and Mr. Wilson. We know what it feels like to drum up the courage to come forward despite our co-workers telling us that they will deny ever making a statement because they do not want to be part of rocking the boat. We know the uneasy feeling of paying for attorneys and dealing with the stress that comes with telling the truth. We know the feeling of thinking I have no choice when we see things are being done wrong or illegally. We just keep the faith that true justice will prevail and that the dishonest perpetrators will eventually be held accountable for all of their improper acts. I recommend the movie if you think that the stories we put up on this web site are not the truth. It is not a funny movie nor is it an action packed movie. It is about bad people in our government who will try anything to discredit and ruin the lives of honest government employees. So if you think this web site is full of a bunch of whiners and disgruntled employees making comments, I suggest you see the movie and if you really want to test the waters, try reporting some misconduct and see how quickly your perspective will be changed.