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#1 Doc Holiday

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 10:31 AM

First of all, if you have to hide what you are doing, its probably wrong. To threaten or state that such a hiring memo is LE sensitve....Please. Secondly, name ONE SAC who received the memo,that had NO guidance attached, that is qualified to determine who is underepresented in the Bureau. Were they provided the Bureaus and the nations demographics and related socio-economic impact studies? Or was this an ill conceived fast track to get a bunch of non-caucasions hired. Does this mean this hiring is going to target Middle Easterners, Asians,Russians,Mexicans,females,Gays etc etc etc? Because all of these are "underepresented".

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:56 PM

Advice to anyone testing who is being discriminated against:

Keep records, communicate with each other and seek counsel. In the mid-late 1980s, the IL State Police openly discriminated against white male applicants by requiring a 15 point higher written exam result from them than any other gender/race to proceed in the hiring process. The state lost a suit filed by the victims and was ordered to offer the harmed applicants a job. More recently, the CT firefighters that were discriminated against on promotions won their suit as well, so racism is losing out.

That being said, I hope this is just rumor and that our agency is not introducing race into hiring criteria.
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 02:34 PM

Am curious. I hear that ATF now has a moratorium on hiring white(caucasian) male applicants. Word is that ATF is even refusing to accept applications from very qualified white males, many of whom are decorated combat vets, who want to participate in the hiring process. There is allegedly some hush hush secret email issued by HQ threatening to fire or prosecute people who talk about this.

Is there any truth to this and if so is this a permanent practice now at ATF?



Maybe some ATF EEO rep can come on and explain this new practice to the forum. Many people want to know


Strikeforce, no EEO (and that's not Explosives Enforcement Officer) exists in ATF or elsewhere to provide equality for, or otherwise assist, male caucasians. The position needs to be renamed to UEO (Unequal Employment Officer) as to more accurately describe its true intended purpose.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 02:11 PM

When will some brave person copy this reported memo or directive, if it exists in writing, to the media ??? That is the only way to bring about change. When??

If it exists, post it to this forum in a pdf format. I am sure someone will publish it.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 07:38 AM

When will some brave person copy this reported memo or directive, if it exists in writing, to the media ??? That is the only way to bring about change. When??

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 07:58 PM

Am curious. I hear that ATF now has a moratorium on hiring white(caucasian) male applicants. Word is that ATF is even refusing to accept applications from very qualified white males, many of whom are decorated combat vets, who want to participate in the hiring process. There is allegedly some hush hush secret email issued by HQ threatening to fire or prosecute people who talk about this. Is there any truth to this and if so is this a permanent practice now at ATF? Maybe some ATF EEO rep can come on and explain this new practice to the forum. Many people want to know




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