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[Jay A. Dobyns]

Friday will be the 4-year anniversary of my home being burned down on top of my family.  DOJ and ATF have put me through the meatgrinder on this.

Guess what DOJ and ATF?  Get a bigger meatgrinder.  I'm still here.  PS: I still didn't do it.

[Jay A. Dobyns]

Trust me.  I got this on my end.  Focus on today's information that the FBI is offering $1million reward for the killers of Brian Terry who are at large, likely in Mexico.

[Longhorn]

Anybody see Changecast #8 yet?  Choices and Consequences is the dicussion topic.  It is being nicknamed the Dobyns Changecast in HQ because Jones, Brandon and Turk just gave him 5 days off for whistleblowing on an a**hole supervisor but didn't like the way he did it because the supervisor has becomes Jone's boy.  Just talked to Jay and told him I was going to post this so I'm not doing this out of school or behind anyone's back.  I'm just pissed for all us and Jay when I see this bs.  Hey Jones, why dont you take your personal protection team and Brandon and Turk  and look at what Newell and Gillett allowed to happen to this agent.  Look at the pictures and maybe you can understand why he calls you guys hypocrites when you talk about "one ATF"!  You know what was done about this?  Not a f***ing thing so don't tell us about your f***ing plans and "don't look back".  You take care of agents or you will end up like Truscott, Domenech, Sullivan and Melson.  Agents run ATF, not you.  ATF Agents know this - with Jones, Brandon and Turk in charge - this could be you and you could be next.

CUATF Webmaster, on 21 October 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

   October 21, 2011
ATF Ignored Death Threats, Tried to Frame Whistleblower Agent to Cover Corruption
By Katie Pavlich
10/21/2011

[Jaime3]

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[DavisLowrider]

Crush them!

VINCENT A CEFALU, on 03 December 2011 - 09:04 AM, said:

Special Agent Jay Dobyns will be on Judge Jeanine' news show tonight between 9-10 EST. The subject matter will be ATF whistleblower reprisals. Please watch. Please take notes. And please be prepared to demand an end to corruption at ATF/DOJ.

Jay, if you read this before you go on think about all the threats you took that these people ignored and all the effort they have put into destroying your reputation and having your house burned down on top of your family and ATF trying to frame you. That should put you in the right frame of mind. DLR PS: I think the show comes on at 10 est 7pst.

[Corny]

Saw the Fox piece today and was nice to see Jay speak on behalf of all the whistleblowers who have been retaliated against.  Here is what I predict.  The OIG report will come out and nail Newell, etc.  Then ATF will take the action they should have taken 6 months ago or today for that matter.  The problem will be that everyone knows what should be done but Jones won't do it.  When he eventually has to it is going to look like someone else had to tell him how to run his agency because he wasn't able to see the writing on the wall himself.  Good luck to all the guys who told the truth but ATF doesn't care about.  Also, did anyone catch that the piece ran on Fox but hit You Tube from the government's oversight committee website?  Uh oh!  Holder is holding the line on punishing these guys because they called his baby ugly.

[CovertOne]

Noah K., on 09 November 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

Mr. Dobyns,

The article on Fox.com regarding the Brian Terry fundraiser that you will be hosting caused me to look further at your story.  I thought, why is an ATF Agent speaking at an event for the Border Patrolman that ATF provided the guns for his murder?  I found some other articles, etc., and did some e-research.  I am an attorney and offer this as simple advice.  Encourage your attorney to file a bar complaint against the government attorneys involved in defending your allegations.  By all accounts their conduct has been unethical.  As an attorney we cannot harbor felonies.  Do to them what they have done to you, take away their careers and their ablity to earn future paychecks.  In the legal realm a suspenison or revocation of their law licences is impactful and has both short and long term ramifications.  Because they are government attorneys does give them authority to operate outside the standards of the profession.  Good luck.  My thanks to Agent Terry.  A small donation is on it's way.

Noah

I am not a lawyer but I agree with Noah.  Take away their ablity to corruptly practice law.  The 5th floor won't do it.

This post on Townhall.com is also very powerful.  It shows the influence that our whistleblowers are having on federal law.  Townhall is read by the staff of every member of Congress.  Jay and Vince, you are winning and are making a difference.  ATF's lawyers have personalized their disputes and they will not stop doing that to you guys until you take them out of play.  Jones isn't going to go against a lawyer because he is a lawyer and he's in Holder's pocket.  It is easy for me to say from the sidelines but just keep exposing the truth.  Chief counsels office needs to be abolished.

Both Jay and Vince and mentioned as having an impact on this topic:

http://townhall.com/...tion_introduced

[Noah K.]

Mr. Dobyns,

The article on Fox.com regarding the Brian Terry fundraiser that you will be hosting caused me to look further at your story.  I thought, why is an ATF Agent speaking at an event for the Border Patrolman that ATF provided the guns for his murder?  I found some other articles, etc., and did some e-research.  I am an attorney and offer this as simple advice.  Encourage your attorney to file a bar complaint against the government attorneys involved in defending your allegations.  By all accounts their conduct has been unethical.  As an attorney we cannot harbor felonies.  Do to them what they have done to you, take away their careers and their ablity to earn future paychecks.  In the legal realm a suspenison or revocation of their law licences is impactful and has both short and long term ramifications.  Because they are government attorneys does give them authority to operate outside the standards of the profession.  Good luck.  My thanks to Agent Terry.  A small donation is on it's way.

Noah

[Jay Dobyns]

A quick note after re-reading my post.  In no way, shape or form do I intend to convey any comparison of damage between what is happening to me to what has happened under Fast and Furious, etc.  My drama is zero compared to that of the Terry family, the Zapata family and those killed or injured by F&F guns.  If anyone percieved that I did that, I offer a sincere appology.  I know that the Terry and Zapata families and their beloved sons would trade places with me without a moments thought.  RIP Agents Terry and Zapata and the other victims and their families.  You have my respect and admiration.  Jay

Jay Dobyns, on 23 October 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

Thanks.  After Ms. Pavlich's piece ran the support from the public has been pouring in at a rate I can't keep up with.  To all, thank you for the text's, emails, messages, etc.  To anyone in a similar situation, the government attorneys and their "clients" will push you to the brink of breaking and giving up.  That is how they defend and win cases that they absolutely know that they are guilty on.  If you can maintain your faith and be resillient the truth will make its way out.  Trust this, the information that is available to the public is only a fraction of what I have learned and will prove.  The court hearing this case has placed a protective order on many of the documents and the testimony of some of your favorites subjects here on CleanUpATF.  I am not allowed to openly tell the full story - yet.  When all the protections are lifted and everyone can see what ATF did, how they defended it and tried to cover it up, new lows in the agency will be exposed - lows that are lower than any of us ever dreamed possible, and that includes what we know on F&F.  Lows that will clearly demonstrate to every ATF Agent what little regard the past ATF administration had for us as people, our families, our careers, our service.  That is all I can say for now.

[Retired and loving it]

Jay Dobyns, on 23 October 2011 - 10:38 PM, said:

Thanks.  After Ms. Pavlich's piece ran the support from the public has been pouring in at a rate I can't keep up with.  To all, thank you for the text's, emails, messages, etc.  To anyone in a similar situation, the government attorneys and their "clients" will push you to the brink of breaking and giving up.  That is how they defend and win cases that they absolutely know that they are guilty on.  If you can maintain your faith and be resillient the truth will make its way out.  Trust this, the information that is available to the public is only a fraction of what I have learned and will prove.  The court hearing this case has placed a protective order on many of the documents and the testimony of some of your favorites subjects here on CleanUpATF.  I am not allowed to openly tell the full story - yet.  When all the protections are lifted and everyone can see what ATF did, how they defended it and tried to cover it up, new lows in the agency will be exposed - lows that are lower than any of us ever dreamed possible, and that includes what we know on F&F.  Lows that will clearly demonstrate to every ATF Agent what little regard the past ATF administration had for us as people, our families, our careers, our service.  That is all I can say for now.

I have the same words for you Jay as I had to Vince on his recent post.  Keep on perservering and good luck to you.  There are many, many people who are pulling for you.

I do so wish that the cesspool in ATF management and Chief Counsel could be cleaned up but any such success appears to be a long time yet to come.

[Jay Dobyns]

Thanks.  After Ms. Pavlich's piece ran the support from the public has been pouring in at a rate I can't keep up with.  To all, thank you for the text's, emails, messages, etc.  To anyone in a similar situation, the government attorneys and their "clients" will push you to the brink of breaking and giving up.  That is how they defend and win cases that they absolutely know that they are guilty on.  If you can maintain your faith and be resillient the truth will make its way out.  Trust this, the information that is available to the public is only a fraction of what I have learned and will prove.  The court hearing this case has placed a protective order on many of the documents and the testimony of some of your favorites subjects here on CleanUpATF.  I am not allowed to openly tell the full story - yet.  When all the protections are lifted and everyone can see what ATF did, how they defended it and tried to cover it up, new lows in the agency will be exposed - lows that are lower than any of us ever dreamed possible, and that includes what we know on F&F.  Lows that will clearly demonstrate to every ATF Agent what little regard the past ATF administration had for us as people, our families, our careers, our service.  That is all I can say for now.

[CUATF Webmaster]

  
ATF Ignored Death Threats, Tried to Frame Whistleblower Agent to Cover Corruption
By Katie Pavlich
10/21/2011

Jay Dobynsis a father, husband  and 25-year highly respected and highly decorated Bureau of Alcohol  Tobacco and Firearms Special Agent. He was the first law enforcement  agent to ever successfully infiltrate multiple layers of the notoriously  dangerous and violent Hells Angels motorcycle gang through "Operation  Black Biscuit." He has described the Hells Angels as having their "PhDs  in violence," and worked undercover in the gang for two years. Dobyns  has dedicated his life to undercover service for ATF and took a bullet  through the lung at one point for the agency. Luckily, he survived.

Dobyns has put a number of the nations’ most violent criminals behind  bars, which naturally comes with threats from those criminals and their  buddies in return. After he finished his work bringing down the Hells  Angels, things were no different.

Approximately a year after Operation Black Biscuit concluded beginning  in 2004 through 2008, Dobyns and ATF became aware of credible and  substantial violent threats against him and his family. Those threats  included plans to murder him either with a bullet or by injecting him  with the AIDS virus, kidnapping and torturing his then 15-year-old  daughter and kidnapping his wife in order to videotape a gang rape of  her. Dobyns and ATF also learned contracts were solicited between the  Hells Angels, the Aryan Brotherhood and the MS-13 gang to carry out  these threats.

During Operation Black Biscuit, Dobyns operated as a special field  agent under ATF Phoenix Field Office management. At the time of the  threats, that management team included Special Agent in Charge of the  ATF Phoenix Field Division William Newell, Assistant Special Agent in  Charge George Gillett and ATF Deputy Assistant Director William McMahon,  who served as Newell’s direct supervisor at the time. All were  intimately involved in Operation Fast and Furious.  Newell and McMahon have both testified before the House Oversight  Committee regarding their roles in the lethal gun trafficking operation  that deliberately put over 2,000 high powered weapons into the hands of  ruthless Mexican drug cartels and allowed those weapons to be lost south  of the border.
  
These threats were laid out in prison letters and confirmed through FBI  and ATF interviews of confidential informants inside the Florence  Corrections Facility and the Arlington County Detention Center in  Virginia. Also found circulating in the Florence Facility by a prisoner  known as the captain of the Aryan Brotherhood named "WHITEY," was an  extensive hit list with Jay Dobyns as a top target. Leaders of each gang  in the prison had a copy of the list and had been given "permission to  kill" persons listed according to ATF documents and interviews. Dobyns’  name, in addition to a detailed description of his appearance, also came  up in prison yard talk.

"A confidential source stated that it observed WHITEY go into a box  within his cell that contained a large number of letters. The  confidential source stated that WHITEY pulled out a plain white envelope  from within the box, removing a legal sized piece of paper that was  full of names. The confidential source explained that the list was  broken down into columns, with names, the affiliation of the person who  was named and who had approved the “green light” (given permission to  kill the person or who ordered the "hit"). The confidential source  stated that while looking at the list he recalled several names on the  list that were law enforcement officers (approximately 16 names),  specifically stating the name "JAY DOBYNS ATF," a report from an  interview conducted by ATF Special Agents Jeffery Grabman and Frank  D’Alesio with FBI Special Agent Laura Kidwell present shows.  "WHITEY  knew Dobyns had a daughter, stating that if he were to find the daughter  he would torture her."

Grabman, D'Alesio and Kidwell verified these threats were credible and  management agents in the Washington D.C. ATF office were practically  begging the ATF Phoenix Field Office to take the threats seriously and  investigate.

Dobyns reported these threats to Special Agent in Charge William  Newell, asking for protection for his family. The threats were based in  Arizona and Dobyns lived in Arizona at the time. Newell was in charge of  investigating and handling all threats made against agents working out  of the ATF Phoenix Field Office. The threats were ignored. When Dobyns  essentially "blew the whistle" on Newell, pointing out his failures to  address violent death threats against a federal agent, he was retaliated  against. Newell dismissed the threats and then covered up his blatant  dismissal of those threats within the Phoenix Field Office.

Additionally, in response to the ATF/FBI interview, despite all the  evidence the death threats were credible, Special Agent in Charge of the  Los Angeles Field Division John Torres, who like Newell has also been  promoted into ATF headquarters, informed Dobyns through an email, "The  Chief of Operations Security does not deem the emergency action is  required as of this date and time."

Later, a DOJ Inspector General report concluded that management within  the ATF Phoenix office, despite having the necessary resources, did not  adequately address threats made against Dobyns and found "absence of any  corrective measures proposed to address the failure to conduct timely  and thorough investigations into the death threats made against Dobyns."

In addition, a U.S. Office of Special Counsel report concluded, "I note  with concern the absence of any corrective measures proposed to address  the failure to conduct timely and thorough investigations into the  death threats made against Special Agent Dobyns. ATF does not appear to  have held anyone accountable in this regard. Fully addressing the  problems and failures identified in this care requires more than  amending ATF policies and procedures. It requires that threats against  ATF agents be taken seriously and pursued aggressively and that ATF  officials at all level cooperate to ensure the timely and comprehensive  investigation of threats leveled against its own agents."

On top of ignoring death threats, recently Dobyns' house was set on  fire at 3 a.m. with his wife, son and daughter sleeping inside in a  confirmed act of arson. It is suspected members of the Hells Angels, or  close associates of the gang carried out the arson in retaliation of  Dobyns’ undercover work.


  



When Dobyns reported the incident to both ATF and Newell. He asked for  an investigation into the case. Newell not only refused to investigate,  calling the incident "just scorching," but allowed his subordinates,  including Gillett, to attempt to frame Dobyns, accusing him of purposely  burning down his own home with his family inside, has named him as a  suspect and is investigating him. Newell conspired to destroy and  fabricate evidence to "prove" his case. Emails, witness testimony, phone  conversations and other documentation show the ATF Phoenix Field  Divisions’ intentions, led by Newell,  were  to frame Dobyns, yet Newell  denied under oath any involvement in this activity. His subordinates  Gillett and ATF Tucson Group Supervisor over Operation Wide Receiver  Charles Higman, also denied any attempts to frame Dobyns under oath,  despite evidence showing otherwise.

The retaliatory actions of Newell, and other ATF management agents,  were reported to ATF senior management at the highest levels and were  ignored.

ATF is notorious for retaliatory action against field agents, but the  Dobyns case brings that retaliation behavior to a new level. Credible  death threats, backed by evidence from inside the prison system, the  investigation of the U.S. Office of Special Counsel and the Office of  the Inspector General in the Bush Justice Department, were ignored by  ATF management in the Phoenix Field Division Office and at ATF  headquarters in Washington D.C. Evidence of the threats was also sent to  Congress and the President of the United States.
  
“Numerous mid-level ATF managers the senior leadership of three ATF  field divisions and the Executive Staff of ATF in Washington D.C., along  with ATF's Internal Affairs and the Chief Counsel office were all  directly involved in, and responsible for the death threats against me.  Unfortunately, mine is not an isolated incident. ATF management's  pattern of reckless behavior in this area is institutional. It has been  historically tolerated and promoted.” Dobyns wrote in a letter to an  attorney in the U.S. Office of Special Counsel in late October 2008.

So why does this matter? Newell was the brainchild of Operation Fast  and Furious in the ATF Phoenix Field office. Newell is also the agent  who was in regular contact with a member of the White House national  security team, Kevin O’Reilly, about the lethal program. Newell also  said he would conduct Operation Fast and Furious again, despite two Americans and hundreds of innocent Mexicans dead as a result of the program.

Newell used Dobyns as a test run, to see just how much he could get  away with in his management position within ATF before getting  reprimanded. Considering nobody was held accountable for the mistakes  made in handling death threats against Dobyns, Newell knew he had the  green light to do whatever he wanted, at the highest levels of  corruption. The Dobyns case empowered him. Newell was protected and  defended for ignoring violent death threats against a federal agent, he  had free reign to do what he wanted. This gave Newell everything he  needed to get away with Operation Fast and Furious, which started in  Fall 2009.  

After allowing 2,000 guns to flow freely into the hands of dangerous  Mexican cartels, Newell said under oath that he never let guns walk into  Mexico, despite massive amounts of evidence, whistleblower testimony and detailed mapsproving  otherwise. Keep in mind, ATF Operation Fast and Furious whistleblowers  like John Dodson, Pete Forcelli and Vince Cefalu have all experienced  retaliation for their efforts to expose corruption within ATF.

Since purposely ignoring death threats made against Dobyns,  deliberately trafficking thousands of weapons into Mexico and repeatedly  lying under oath, William Newell has been promoted to a position within  ATF in Washington D.C. William McMahon is no different. He too was  promoted and now oversees the ATF’s Office of Professional  Responsibility and Security Operations or in other words, ATF’s Internal  Affairs Division. George Gillett, who orchestrated the frame job  against Dobyns was moved out of the ATF Phoenix office following his  heavy involvement in Operation Fast and Furious and is now assigned as  ATF’s liason to the U.S. Marshall’s Service in Washington D.C.

"ATF wasn’t going to do anything to Bill Newell. They were going to  defend and protect him because he was their golden boy," Dobyns tells  Townhall. "Why are you protecting this guy? What has he ever done to  even deserve your loyalty let alone your protection?"

If ATF had taken steps to hold Newell, Gillett, McMahon and others  responsible for their irresponsible actions surrounding the Dobyns case,  Fast and Furious wouldn’t have happened, but because ATF openly rewards  bad behavior and corruption, Fast and Furious was utterly predictable.  ATF executive leadership left these people in place to rule in this  agency. They left management in the ATF Phoenix Field Office in place  despite documentation showing they were incompetent.

"The agency and the field agents in the agency know those stories and  it’s demoralizing across the board because the agents, the people with  their boots on the ground are going to say, 'You know what, Jay Dobyns  went out there and laid it down for this agency and he’s getting  attacked by the agency where a guy like Bill Newell who never left his  desk, basically conducted his career with a suit and tie on is being  protected.’ Even after all the things that everybody knows he did, he’s  still being hidden and defended and protected," Dobyns says.

Throughout the years it has become clear that ATF is more interested in  protecting and promoting the corrupt practices of the men who have made  careers profiting off of corruption, obstruction of justice and lies,  like Newell, rather than rewarding field agents taking out dangerous  criminals like ATF Special Agent Jay Dobyns, ATF Operation Fast and  Furious Whistleblowers John Dodson, Pete Forcelli, Vince Cefalu and  others for their bravery and sacrifice to fight violent crime and for  exposing corruption within the agency. The bottom line is, ATF as an  agency doesn’t care about recommendations or evidence of misconduct, in  fact, the agency rewards screw ups on a regular basis.   The Dobyns case  could be counted as the most reckless case of retaliation in ATF  history, yet nobody has been held accountable for it.

"The identical techniques, tactics, practices and personnel that were  used on me were repeated in Fast and Furious. You’ve got a flawed  response plan that is not well thought out, both to the gun trafficking  in Fast and Furious to the threats against me. You’ve got the same  people who are at the tip of the spear in developing the plan to send  thousands of weapons to Mexico and ignoring death threats and not  realizing when it is failing. Then you’ve got the point when they get  called out and caught in their bad acts both in Fast and Furious and my  threat response. Then you go into the immediate denial of ‘no we didn’t  do that.’ Then, when it starts to be proved, you go into the attack on  the person that exposed it, that blew the whistle. They attacked me just  like they attacked John Dodson and Pete Forcelli and those guys. Then  you go into the cover-up where they are denying the evidence and hiding  the evidence of what they did wrong and then you go into the lies under  oath that they’re denying and raising their right hand, swearing to tell  the truth and willingly and intentionally not telling the truth,"  Dobyns says.
  
Katie Pavlich
News Editor at Townhall.com. Follow her on Twitter @katiepavlich.