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#1 Jay A. Dobyns

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:19 PM

With todays Civil lawsuit against Eric Holder I thought this would be a most appropriate tribute to Brian Terry and his family. The words almost speak directly to the situation and events. RIP Brian and may God comfort your family and friends.



End of the Innocence

Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standin' by
But "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly

But I know a place where we can go
That's still untouched by men
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass wave in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie

But I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds toll by
And the tall grass wave in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But, somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say goodbye

Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence

#2 Jaime3

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 11:15 AM

"He should contact the New Ombudsman for help"! Now that's the best laugh I had all day!

Thank you for that, Doc!

#3 Doc Holiday

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:54 AM

Not sure why Congress is NOT pursuing the myriad of potential Criminal Charges for Lying under oath, BUT, I'm thinking he ain't likin bein sued by his own government. Welcome to the Jay Dobyns world. Sucks huh? Hmmmmmmmm, maybe you should contact the NEW Ombudsmans Office for help.

The funniest thing about all this is that Holder could have KEPT all this from being an election season issue by NOT being a complete dick by not just giving Issa the documents he's got.

Obama said it best, in my opinion...

This still being an issue after more than a year and during an election season....thats ALL Eric Holders fault....well, and Obamas too since he decided to play the same game Holders been playing.
I'd like to see the pair of them sitting in a Mexican prison cell for the acts of war they committed against the sovereign nation of Mexico.



#4 Excalibur-2112

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

The funniest thing about all this is that Holder could have KEPT all this from being an election season issue by NOT being a complete dick by not just giving Issa the documents he's got.

Obama said it best, in my opinion...

"The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide." - Barack Hussein Obama, II - August 21, 2010 -

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=ypAU28t5Ya0

This still being an issue after more than a year and during an election season....thats ALL Eric Holders fault....well, and Obamas too since he decided to play the same game Holders been playing.
I'd like to see the pair of them sitting in a Mexican prison cell for the acts of war they committed against the sovereign nation of Mexico.
ALLCAPS....just my way of highlighting to draw attention to a word or point... No yelling intended :-)

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:13 AM

The following appeared as an editorial in the Albuquerque [NM] Journal. It should be:

An Open Letter to Eric H. Holder, Jr.



"Give ‘Fast and Furious’ Documents to Public"


"U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. says of the vote to hold him in contempt of Congress, “you have to be exceedingly naive to think that vote was about … documents.”

Prove it, sir. Put your documents where your mouth is. Because if the Justice Department and the White House truly believe a Democratic government should be accountable to those it governs, then releasing all documents in the botched “Fast and Furious” gun-running operation is necessary.

While there is little doubt there is plenty of embarrassment to go around in the decision by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to allow 2,000 guns to walk away, believing real life is like a Hollywood movie and law enforcement would be able to track each of them to powerful Mexican drug cartels, there is no doubt the operation went horribly wrong.

Two of the guns were found near the body of murdered Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.

Yet Holder says it’s all about him, and he has “become a symbol of what they don’t like about the positions this Justice Department has taken; I am also a proxy for the president in an election year.

If that refers to a position of hiding public information from the public, or keeping under wraps documents that have absolutely nothing to do with national security secrets, or taking a hit for the president’s decision to invoke executive privilege rather than be honest with the American people, then he’s right.

The New Mexico Democrats who voted against the contempt charges, Reps. Martin Heinrich and Ben Ray Lujan, have called it political theater. But this is a show that should have closed before opening.

New Mexico Republican Rep. Steve Pearce skips the hyperbole and gets right to the point with “I would rather have the truth and the documents than have had this vote. It should not have come to this.

No, a bureaucrat/politician did not pull the literal trigger that killed Terry. But a bureaucrat/politician did push a dangerous operation on the American taxpayers that ultimately ended in the death of an American citizen who was sworn to uphold the laws of the land.

Hiding behind executive privilege and political grandstanding is a shabby way to honor that sacrifice."


Couldn't have said it better myself.....


#6 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:39 PM

TO ALL WHO HAVE AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THOSE PRINCIPALS OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT AND WON FOR.

HAPPY 4TH AND GOD BLESS AMERICA
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#7 Airtel

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:38 AM

I knew when Mr. Obama was elected that Eric Holder would be his choice for AG. In my opinion, this man is the worst choice possible to run the DOJ. The DOJ has always been heavy laden with left leaning attorneys and to have Holder leading them is a prescription for disaster. Since he has the direct support of the WH, he is free to do, or not do, whatever pleases him and his political supporters. Holder makes Janet Reno seem like a reasonable AG, although we know that she wasn't. Holder's shares the same personal and political philosophy as Obama, i.e. "The ends justify the means". They will do anything to advance their agenda and feel justified in doing it. I am so happy that I am retired and I no longer have to deal with DOJ. I was not an ATF Agent, but I sympathize with the majority of them trying to work with DOJ.




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