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#1 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 07:44 PM

Dude, go fuck yourself. We as an agency and more specifically as agents have exposed corruption in this agency at the ultimate cost to our careers. BUT, Just because you say it dont make it so. This website has taken corruption to task. We even gave you guidance. Take your issues aka evidence up with the Director. We've done all we can do.
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#2 lookingforanswers

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 07:21 PM

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#3 Doc Holiday

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 05:25 PM

If you have evidence re theft of Gov. Funds, you did what you are supposed to. You reported it to Internal Affairs. That being said, it sounds like your boy (s) got convicted. Doesn't pass the smell test. But be clear, if you have evidence it'll be handled. BUT one has nothing to do with the other. If it did, the public defender would have used it. We dont abide thieves at ATF. But forgive us if we dont believe OR trust public defenders either.

#4 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 04:35 PM

Like Heisenberg said, we aint here to HELP defendants or their investigators. THATS internal affairs job.
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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:48 PM

Oh, Great! Now this website is going to be used to coach defense lawyers and investigators from the defense on how to screw agents? Defendants never lie to dirty up an agent in pursuit of a dismissal or an appeal, right?

I'm out!

#6 lookingforanswers

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 01:12 PM

This issue is common to ATF and that is why people come to this web site.  You know all of the other alphabet agencies that are out there.  Start going to all of them.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 11:26 AM

I am a CJA (federally appointed)  investigator. I investigated a case that involved a storefront operations that ATF ran. After I finished the case, I came across evidence that the lead ATF investigator stole funds from the storefront operation. I have made a report to ATF IA and it has been almost one year now and this guy is still working. Is this common? He has multiple working IA cases against him.

CJA? Educate us please. If internal affairs is not acting timely, you should notify DOJ/IG. A year is more than enough time to either CLEAR the Agent, or forward the allegations to ATFs PRB. There are several possibilities as to why this Agent is still on the job. First, he could have been cleared of any wrongdoing. Second, he/she is a boss or favored by bosses at HQ which suggests they tamped down the allegations. They could also be wanting to sweep it under the carpet since we have been getting so much bad press for the way our leadership conducts its internal reviews. If this is significant and symptomatic of the corruption lingering in our upper echelon, might I suggest that the media be engaged. OUR leadership thrives in the darkness and ONLY responds when light is shed on their misdeeds.



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Posted 12 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

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