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Some cases aren't like the others... and the gun community notices

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#1 James Miller

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 09:47 AM

To add to this,


The DENI branch is a joke.  They put out dozens of NICS cases on a daily basis yet almost none of them ever go to trial or even get a second look for that matter.  I remember one Field Division that just stacked them up to a certain point and then would shred them.  During my time there, I at least tried to forward cases that had some prosecutorial merit but of the 20,000 plus cases I went over in a ten year period I can only remember one of mine that I forwarded that ever went to trial.  Why does the ATF even keep this office around as it does a whole lot of nothing?  Oh that's right, my old supervisor who is now the branch chief is a past master of boot licking and can make herself shine like nobody's business.  Keep wasting that government money ATF...

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 08:04 PM

I know this was the US Attorney mostly and the judge somewhat, and not the ATF - but it's going to reflect on the ATF in so far as to the public it appears that cases involving actual criminals are getting sidelined and softballed while gun owners and FFLs who slip up are hounded to the end of time.


It's the appearance that's out in the gun owning / collecting crowd. Guy straw purchases 27 guns using false ID and writing fake address on 4473's and he gets 1 year of probation. Whereas not that long ago, Abramski buys ONE gun that he legally transfers to his uncle, and he gets 5 years of probation. Or, does the ATF or FBI actually track down any violent felons stopped by the NICS background check? Not so much.


It's not just the Fast & Furious and miserably run sting operations that are killing your organization. Your bosses at the DOJ are doing it to ya big time.





In giving probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license, a federal judge delivered a message:

"People kill people," U.S. District Rudolph Randa said, echoing a common gun rights slogan. "Guns don't kill people."

Dontray Mills, 24, purchased a total of 27 firearms, mostly handguns, between December 2012 and April 2014 and pleaded guilty to one of the charges on April 22, 2014, after an ATF investigation. As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.

On Wednesday, he was sentenced. As part of the plea bargain, prosecutors agreed with the one year of probation.

Randa said he recognized the seriousness of the offense and acknowledged the problem of guns winding up in the hands of people who use them to commit violence.

But Mills, Randa said, did not come across as a typical defendant because of his good behavior since the charges and his life ambitions, which include becoming a rap musician. While on bail, Mills twice traveled to Los Angeles to work on a film and to pursue his musical aspirations.

Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility.

Mills purchased the firearms, usually at a Gander Mountain or Mills Fleet Farm store, with an identification that had an address that was different from his own. He tearfully told the court Wednesday he was "unaware of how serious" his offense was.

On April 11, 2014, Mills was at a Mills Fleet Farm in Germantown and filled out ATF Form 4473 to purchase a gun from the store, which he could pick up two days later. Shortly after he went to West Bend and purchased a firearm there, too.

On that same day, law enforcement officers, who had received a tip about Mills' activities about a week earlier, went to the address he had been using to purchase the firearms in the 6100 block of N. 35th St in Milwaukee and interviewed a resident of the house.

Mills had listed the address in his purchases, but the resident said nobody had permission to use her address and nobody was renting a room. The family — which included a man, woman and two minor children — had no idea their address had been used by someone else to register to buy guns.

Mills was taken into custody and released on bail. While on bail, he traveled to California to work on a film and to pursue his aspirations of becoming a rap artist.

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