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ATF Elimination Act was reintroduced on Thursday


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#1 James Miller

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:17 PM

Right now I would dump ATF&E as there are way too much garbage going on within the agency.  There are quite a few offices especially out on Needy Road in Martinsburg that could go the way of the Dodo and no one would bat an eye.

 



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:40 PM

After all these years, FBI has now expressed an interest in arson cases.  No, not the silly bodega fires in which $40k worth of store contents are lost (does that really affect interstate commerce?).  FBI has finally realized that arson can be, and has been, used as terrorist weapon.  A couple of years ago, the same Sensenbrenner sat on a policy paper warning about the potential of using fire.  Imagine three or four simultaneous wildfires across the southwest.  Or imagine several concurrent Coatesvilles (just don't blame the Jugaloos immediately, like the Philadelphia Division SES's and the division's idiot "intel" supervisor did).

There are already internal DOJ proposals out there.  The firearms regulatory responsibility would be turned over to the DEA's diversion branch. 

As for criminal enforcement, any halfway decent police department can do the same simple drug cases that ATF has made its bread-and-butter.  The only difference is that the PD doesn't need a bunch of people making $130,000 and driving new Taurus sedans and Explorer SUV's.  And the NYPD has demonstrated that you don't need an ATF to break up interstate gunrunning rings.

It is amazing how many people have bought off on the "Intel" supervisors BS.  A Brooks Brothers suit makes him an expert in the eyes of a lot of these SESs.  They promote so many people who do not have a clue.  Connections are the only thing that matter.



#3 GoodWorker

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:31 PM

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Scan down to the chart and you decide if it is accurate.



#4 abteilung

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 06:39 AM

After all these years, FBI has now expressed an interest in arson cases.  No, not the silly bodega fires in which $40k worth of store contents are lost (does that really affect interstate commerce?).  FBI has finally realized that arson can be, and has been, used as terrorist weapon.  A couple of years ago, the same Sensenbrenner sat on a policy paper warning about the potential of using fire.  Imagine three or four simultaneous wildfires across the southwest.  Or imagine several concurrent Coatesvilles (just don't blame the Jugaloos immediately, like the Philadelphia Division SES's and the division's idiot "intel" supervisor did).

There are already internal DOJ proposals out there.  The firearms regulatory responsibility would be turned over to the DEA's diversion branch. 

As for criminal enforcement, any halfway decent police department can do the same simple drug cases that ATF has made its bread-and-butter.  The only difference is that the PD doesn't need a bunch of people making $130,000 and driving new Taurus sedans and Explorer SUV's.  And the NYPD has demonstrated that you don't need an ATF to break up interstate gunrunning rings.

 



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Posted 23 May 2017 - 03:07 PM

Believe me, the FBI does not want gun laws on their plate and could care less about the NRA.  They have their hands full with counter-terrorism, counterintelligence, public corruption, white collar crime, organized crime, and what little violent crime that the AUSA's will prosecute.  Also Representative James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, who introduced the bill to eliminate ATF, is a REPUBLICAN.  As such, the Republicans really do not want to keep the ATF alive.  With Trump's budget proposal to cut DoJ funding by 4%, ATF may get eliminated by the budget axe before anything else.



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Posted 20 May 2017 - 04:21 PM

Seriously?  You guys need to wake up.  The democrats have been wanting to get rid of ATF for years so the FBI could have the gun laws and stand up to the NRA.  The reality is republicans and the NRA keep ATF alive but then play the game of wanting to disband ATF.  DISBAND ATF AND GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO THE FBI.  Your champions are playing you for suckers.  Clinton and Obama wanted to merge ATF into the FBI.  It was the Republicans and the NRA that fought it.



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 07:28 PM

https://www.nytimes....count.html?_r=0

 

 

  Thank God that congress has read this NY times story.

 

https://oversight.ho...on-due-3-10.pdf



#8 abteilung

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 03:25 PM

I am going to write my House Rep immediately in support of this bill.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 02:34 PM

http://sensenbrenner...cumentID=398088

 






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