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Posted 06 February 2010 - 04:07 PM

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#2 MidlevelArea51

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 12:52 PM

I don't know who is acting in Little Rock, but I know that office has had more than one poor supervisor in the recent past - lots of personnel issues and "grievances." Since the government is spending this kind of money having someone "detailed" as acting supervisor for so long, I hope he/she is worth it. But the rules are the rules and should be applied fairly to all -- management and agents/investigators. I guess I don't have as much trouble with the GOV issue as I do with the per diem issue, as an agent in a similar situation would be allowed to use his/her GOV for commuting and no questions are asked. :unsure:



Being familiar with the situation in Little Rock from contacts there, the personnel issues and "grievances" were initiated because of problems with prior managements disregard for rules and policies. It seems as though some employees there did what so many are afraid to do and that is make a stand. I have some contacts there and know much of the details, but that is not what matters. I applaud those employees and the others that have posted on this site for courageously standing firm for their agency and not letting wayward managers that abuse and break the law go unchecked.

As far as the GOV issue, one must understand that government provided vehicles whether owned or leased by ATF are treated differently when provided to 1811's vs. other job series. Sure you can be provided a government vehicle to commute from your hotel to your TDY location, but not for personal or leisure trips outside your scope of duties. I know that this is not a "perk" given to other non-1811 personnel such as area supervisors. There are laws bigger than ATF's own-GSA regulations and the U.S. Code. If this is the case, then sign me up- I want a government provided vehicle. No use in making payments to GM.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:33 PM

I don't know who is acting in Little Rock, but I know that office has had more than one poor supervisor in the recent past - lots of personnel issues and "grievances." Since the government is spending this kind of money having someone "detailed" as acting supervisor for so long, I hope he/she is worth it. But the rules are the rules and should be applied fairly to all -- management and agents/investigators. I guess I don't have as much trouble with the GOV issue as I do with the per diem issue, as an agent in a similar situation would be allowed to use his/her GOV for commuting and no questions are asked. :unsure:
Keepin' on keepin' on!

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 09:22 PM

Just to show that Industry Operations is just as involved in the waste of government money, I offer the following events to demonstrate that favoritism is alive and well. The permanent area supervisor in Oklahoma has been on a year-long detail in Little Rock drawing full per diem when the rules only allow ¾ per diem. This is because Billy Hoover approved the full rate claiming that the position could not be filled, although it is a documented fact that the position was intentionally non-selected on two occasions. The supervisor has been given complete use of a GOV for all of his needs including commuting from Little Rock back here at government expense. I’m sure management finds ways to make this “for business purposes” but there is no way to hide the fact that a GOV cannot be used for personal use. But of course, this is ATF management and rules don’t matter for them. Funds for programs are short yet the agency has money for this perk-All because of the relationship of this supervisor and a former DAD. Management making sweetheart deals for their buds. Since I am a taxpayer as everyone else, part of the money being wasted is mine, I hope the new SAC over Little Rock stops this waste. Will this misuse be investigated? Who knows? I am watching to see what happens.




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