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#1 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:49 AM

Finally folks, all good things must come to an end. I am retired now which means this ain't my circus, not my monkeys. I hope we collectively effected change. Anyone who is interested in taking the reins, can email me at Vcefalu@aol.com. It's been real.
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#2 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:46 AM

Brandon and Turk should be called to the hill and asked Two questions.

Why did they allow Gleysteen and the ATF Attorneys keep their jobs for misconduct CONFIRMED by Judge Allegra. They continue to appeal the judgement at tax payer expense. DOH attorneys have the appeal but Brandon with ONE phone call could show some honor.

Second question is how did you allow allow all the F and F players go unaccountable. Especially Newell.
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#3 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:40 AM

Ron Turk doing unethical shit. Say it ain't so. Anybody got the scoop on one of the Execs getting bounced out of US for banging a subordinate in the building twice?
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#4 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

Well, this explains some things...


Exclusive: Gun lobbyist helped write ATF official's proposal to deregulate
https://www.cnn.com/...invs/index.html


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#5 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

Well, this explains some things...

Exclusive: Gun lobbyist helped write ATF official's proposal to deregulate


https://www.cnn.com/...invs/index.html

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#6 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:36 AM

Well, this explains some things...

Exclusive: Gun lobbyist helped write ATF official's proposal to deregulate


https://www.cnn.com/...invs/index.html

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:43 PM

Well, this explains some things...

 

Exclusive: Gun lobbyist helped write ATF official's proposal to deregulate

https://www.cnn.com/...invs/index.html

 

 




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Posted 10 February 2018 - 02:05 PM

On the other side of the spectrum, how about, in a Large Northeastern Division, the female 1811 who couldn't get her -13 because she never worked a case, but somehow around the same time she banged the Division Response Team leader, she got VCC.  Then she gets DOO about the same time she's banging the ASAC.  Their messy break-up, which led to her filing an EEO, screwed up one of the biggest investigations of my career.  She hit the jackpot on that EEO, and then she ends up banging the SAC.  And now she's in an HQ position, and gets to work from home.  Never had to move once in her career either.  Why are people like this tolerated?



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Posted 08 February 2018 - 06:25 PM

Very disturbing stuff Re Gleysteen. Coincidence Turk and all the rats are leaving a sinking ship? Hell word is even Bort is hunting an atty. I guess Karma is real. I hope if Justice IG is investigating they interview me. Lisa Kincaid goes public with serious allegations and Gleysteen steps down and Turk hauls ass?????

https://www.bostongl...mOtK/story.html

 

https://www.cnn.com/...hneider-pkg.cnn

 

https://www.nytimes....rearms-atf.html

 

https://www.channel3...hroom/675586620

 

These are just a few highlights over the last year.  What a legacy!  I heard the new supervisor's course was cancelled so that executives could attend Shot Show in Viva Las Vegas.  Can anyone confirm.  If so, Priorities...



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 11:48 AM

#MetooDOJ  It looks like DOJ employees need to do a march in Washington, DC since the offenders are still receiving a pay check or pension check.  The lady who was assaulted in Chicago should ask the Chicago Police Department for a report documenting the offense.  Maybe CPD will put handcuffs on the offender.  There is a fundamental failure in leadership when executives are allowed to get away with offenses like assault and whistle blower retaliation.  There was a vote of no confidence for the President of Michigan State University because of the sexual abuse cases ....

 

#MetooDOJ  It looks like DOJ employees need to do a march in Washington, DC since the offenders are still receiving a pay check or pension check.  The lady who was assaulted in Chicago should ask the Chicago Police Department for a report documenting the offense.  Maybe CPD will put handcuffs on the offender.  There is a fundamental failure in leadership when executives are allowed to get away with offenses like assault and whistle blower retaliation.  There was a vote of no confidence for the President of Michigan State University because of the sexual abuse cases ....

Maybe it takes a while but karma, even if just a little, does eventually come around.  From a friend, it did at DEA, maybe it will at ATF.  The following was sent to me and have heard from several people that these type of interactions on the female's behalf with males in several offices in Arizona has been going on for about 15 years and finally caught up with her.  From what I understand this behavior with the SAC, ASACs and other males was detrimental to other employees - male and female - and their office working conditions and personal relationships.

 

http://www.azfamily....te-relationship



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Posted 01 February 2018 - 10:30 AM

Very disturbing stuff Re Gleysteen. Coincidence Turk and all the rats are leaving a sinking ship? Hell word is even Bort is hunting an atty. I guess Karma is real. I hope if Justice IG is investigating they interview me. Lisa Kincaid goes public with serious allegations and Gleysteen steps down and Turk hauls ass?????
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Posted 25 January 2018 - 11:45 AM

ATf Executive culture of coverup, corruption and retaliation.say it ain't so. DEJA Vu. Until DOJ shithammered and/or fired the senior leadership for this ongoing practice it will continue. Because The Brandons, Turks and Gleysteens if the world will just cover-up for their buddy's and continue to promote like minded bosses.

http://www.cnn.com/2...suit/index.html

 

#MetooDOJ  It looks like DOJ employees need to do a march in Washington, DC since the offenders are still receiving a pay check or pension check.  The lady who was assaulted in Chicago should ask the Chicago Police Department for a report documenting the offense.  Maybe CPD will put handcuffs on the offender.  There is a fundamental failure in leadership when executives are allowed to get away with offenses like assault and whistle blower retaliation.  There was a vote of no confidence for the President of Michigan State University because of the sexual abuse cases ....



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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:34 PM

ATf Executive culture of coverup, corruption and retaliation.say it ain't so. DEJA Vu. Until DOJ shithammered and/or fired the senior leadership for this ongoing practice it will continue. Because The Brandons, Turks and Gleysteens if the world will just cover-up for their buddy's and continue to promote like minded bosses.

http://www.cnn.com/2...suit/index.html
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:42 PM

Info floating that Nashville may not need to worry about Gleysteen EVER checking in. Apparently he got caught again Impeding IA investigations and retaliating. Apparently something will be public shortly. If true, karma caught up to him. The Bureau will be a better place without him and Brandon. Apparently he had his hands in it too

The movie the Darkest Hour tells the story of all the haters that tried to discredit Winston Churchill and tried to obstruct everything he tried to accomplish despite the fact that most of them wanted to capitulate to Hitler.  I cannot help but think how ATF has mimicked the plot of the Darkest Hour.  ATF is in a sad state of affairs and people try to discredit those trying to do the right thing and they promote those who follow the company line of deny, make counter accusations, and circle the wagons.  I wish more people had the moral courage as some of our finest agents.  I hope congress finds out about the serious sexual misconduct and the criminal acts that have taken place in ATF.  If congress, the media, the entertainment business, and major corporations have finally acted responsibly by firing some of their "elite"  why can't the DOJ do it too? 



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 06:46 PM

Info floating that Nashville may not need to worry about Gleysteen EVER checking in. Apparently he got caught again Impeding IA investigations and retaliating. Apparently something will be public shortly. If true, karma caught up to him. The Bureau will be a better place without him and Brandon. Apparently he had his hands in it too
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 07:43 PM

God Bless Atlanta FD. Because they just drew the short straw. No integrity, empty suit. A yes man extraordinaire. Watch your back Atl.
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Posted 30 November 2017 - 07:42 PM

God Bless Atlanta FD. Because they just drew the shirt straw. No integrity, empty suit. A yes man extraordinaire. Watch your back Atl.
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Posted 04 November 2017 - 06:15 AM

ATF Ahead of its time.  And always ahead of the curve.

Lest institutional history be forgotten.

https://www.upi.com/.../3934726555600/

And who could count the number of male supervisor-female agent affairs on one hand...



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Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:38 AM

Well at least that RAC & AUSA were fired which was a day late and a dollar short IMHO.  It has reached the point with me at least that I just do not respect most folks in DOJ Law enforcement.  Recently at work I had a Federal LEO try and make me look bad in front of my supervisor about an issue and I just basically informed him that his badge was as meaningless too me as he was and that he could pound sand in that order.  My supervisor concurred with that assessment thankfully and he was sent on his way.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:21 PM

Also, you're not related to someone who kissed Eliot Ness's ass; you don't have multiple affairs with married supervisors; you aren't a sociopathic bully who would cry like a bitch when transferred from Philadelphia to Trenton; you didn't flip your GOV while driving under the influence; you haven't lost firearms; you haven't let prisoners escape....all that usually cements your career in management in BATFE.

Yep.  Have been hearing a lot about extra marital affairs, a SAC highly encouraged to retire, PAID moves for employees managers possibly lying for other managers and possibly having affairs, jobs CREATED for specific employees who are not doing their jobs anyway and cover-ups for managers tweaking the system as to whom they are hiring, etc, etc, etc.  Looks like ATF is now a little Peyton Place.  



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

http://www.guns.com/...isconduct-probe
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

Have to laugh about this because I stopped crying a long time ago.  18 years of service with them and yet now when I apply for a job with them I'm told I am "unsuitable" for employment with this Bureau yet they allow this garbage to go on!  I suppose I am indeed unsuitable as I am not a crook or weasel.

Also, you're not related to someone who kissed Eliot Ness's ass; you don't have multiple affairs with married supervisors; you aren't a sociopathic bully who would cry like a bitch when transferred from Philadelphia to Trenton; you didn't flip your GOV while driving under the influence; you haven't lost firearms; you haven't let prisoners escape....all that usually cements your career in management in BATFE.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:40 PM

James Miller, You are not alone. A lot of us are in the same place as you.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:38 PM

Have to laugh about this because I stopped crying a long time ago.  18 years of service with them and yet now when I apply for a job with them I'm told I am "unsuitable" for employment with this Bureau yet they allow this garbage to go on!  I suppose I am indeed unsuitable as I am not a crook or weasel.



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Posted 12 September 2017 - 06:03 AM

‘I Smell Cash’: How the A.T.F. Spent Millions Unchecked https://www.nytimes....cigarettes.html

Make sure you read all the comments posted on my times web site. Not to be missed.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:41 AM

http://www.philly.co...uled-arson.html

 

I won't even go into where is the federal interest in this fire.  What disgusts me is the $10K award the Philadelphia Division posts almost immediately.

 

In April 2012, I was the case agent in the arson which killed PFD Lt. Robert Neary and FFer Daniel Sweeney.

 

 

http://www.nbcphilad...-146633625.html

 

I worked 14 hours a day on this case, despite having suffered a spinal injury shortly before this.  On top of that, my mother died a day or two after the fire after suffering for a month after lung cancer surgery, never leaving the hospital.  But instead of going to see my siblings that day, I traveled to upstate NY to search for who was responsible for this fire.

 

Someone knows who set the Kensington fire.  A $10,000 award in that neighborhood is like a million dollars to you and me.  However, the Philadelphia Division's "leadership" hated me so much, they didn't want to see me successfully investigate another arson.  Instead, they've allowed a killer to escape.

 

But now, ATF is so concerned about a fire involving hipster condos that they immediately offer a reward.

 

WHY?

 

I hope all my bosses from back in 2012, who refused to post a reward and bring justice to Neary's and Sweeney's families, have to answer to God one day as to their blind hatred.  At the very least, let them explain this to AG Sessions.



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

Wow, What Division was that?

The same pathetic office that gave us The Cadillac SAC and WonderBoy.

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 09:15 AM

I believe Tom Brandon and Ron Turk are honorable men. However, they took took a beating in those videos.

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 01:12 PM

operation "up in smoke."

 

https://www.nytimes....v=top-news&_r=0



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Posted 10 April 2017 - 04:10 PM

 

 

 

 



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 05:19 PM

Wow, What Division was that?

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 02:07 PM

Another great story from ATF Management. This time in Lubbock, TX. It appears that one of the young female ATF Agents was sleeping with a married, Lubbock Police Officer. Well, the wife of the Police Officer learned of the affair and called the Lubbock ATF RAC to complain. Well, the ATF RAC did nothing and ignored the call. WHY?

Well, it also appears that the ATF RAC was also sleeping with his Subordinate ATF Agent. The ATF RAC is married to one of the ATF Inspectors stationed in Lubbock, TX. The wife of the Police Officer, after being ignored by ATF, called the Lubbock Chief of Police and complained. Well, the Chief called ATF Upper Management and now ATF Internal Affaires is involved. Maybe this ATF RAC will get a nice ASAC job somewhere. Pathetic, if all is true.

Maybe this case will be investigated by the GS-14 OPR agent who slept with her ASAC and then filed an EEO, and then slept with her married SAC while also "comforting" his wife after a family tragedy.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 06:54 AM

Another great story from ATF Management. This time in Lubbock, TX. It appears that one of the young female ATF Agents was sleeping with a married, Lubbock Police Officer. Well, the wife of the Police Officer learned of the affair and called the Lubbock ATF RAC to complain. Well, the ATF RAC did nothing and ignored the call. WHY?

Well, it also appears that the ATF RAC was also sleeping with his Subordinate ATF Agent. The ATF RAC is married to one of the ATF Inspectors stationed in Lubbock, TX. The wife of the Police Officer, after being ignored by ATF, called the Lubbock Chief of Police and complained. Well, the Chief called ATF Upper Management and now ATF Internal Affaires is involved. Maybe this ATF RAC will get a nice ASAC job somewhere. Pathetic, if all is true.

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:21 AM

From Ed Glebas sister regarding his services:

The best Brother im the world died February 3rd. I' so sorry to say this. There will be a memorial service on March 25th, Saturday, at Community Church-Mill Valley
8 Olive St.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:39 PM

You ask WHY is Vince still ranting? Because this is still MY Bureau too. I earned that.

 

Today's testimony by Mr. Brandon should be embarrassing to everybody who does or did carry a ATF badge. Ill keep my rant as brief as possible, Clearly the Dem side of the committee had NO interest in providing oversight, as they didn't ask ONE question about the matters before the committee.

 

1. Mr Brandon has been the DD AND Acting Director of ATF for over 4 years, and he didn't understand what being invited to testify before a Congressional oversight committee entailed? I call outright bullshit. IF it was true, then Mr, Brandon is NOT intelligent enough to be Acting Director. Our Bureau has a LONG history of  being "invited" to appear before this particular committee. He made reference to advice by counsel suggesting he didn't need to compel Ron Turk to appear. Again, bullshit. HES the Acting DIRECTOR, not Chief counsel. Tom Brandon doesn't lead or run this Bureau, Chief counsel does.

 

2. He was ill prepared to answer obvious questions, and answered much like a GS 7 Agent, not a "street guy". A skilled "street guy" prepares for Grand Jury and Court.

 

3. There was a reason he was willing to take the criticism of the Chairman and others. It was because Turk also has no answers to questions of OBVIOUS mismanagement and incompetence.

 

4. The culture hasn't changed. He asked for more money when he has already created an over bloated management structure where there are more agents NOT working cases than ever in our history. He has promoted and protected a cadre of "leaders" that keep failing because the avg. seniority of a new boss is 6-8 yrs. ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

 

5. Mr, Brandon stated "we run toward the truth". You KNOW personally of the lies, the evidence manipulations, the frame job, the perjury that occurred in the trial of Jay Dobyns. You hid from and IGNORED the truth to this day. KNOWING the abuses directed at a decorated and storied Agent like Jay Dobyns, you STILL sit there today allowing the Department and the Agency to pursue appeals against his victory in the Court of Claims. Isn't that EXACTLY like sitting silent when you know you've convicted a innocent man? Yet you allowed George Gillette to not only get away with a CRIME but one DIRECTLY in violations of the laws WE enforce. Don't try to hide behind DOJ civil Attorneys wont let me settle the Dobyns matter. YOU ARE THE DIRECTOR. OR ARE YOU? Like those who preceded you, you had an opportunity to change things, but just like them, you are too busy polishing your next trophy.

 

Thats all.


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 02:46 PM

This is all based on a New Times investigative report? The New York Times is a laughable piece of garbage. I say so what to this story.

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 05:01 PM

This just got posted on the front page of Breitbart.

 

http://www.breitbart...t-bank-account/

 

Another nail in the coffin, I am afraid.  So sad.



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:25 PM

https://www.nytimes....tcore-ipad&_r=0

 

don't forget to read the comments.

 

Requiesce in Pace, ATF.

 

http://ticklethewire...zed-crime-more/



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:52 PM

In addition to running these gangsters off. Many of us took notes about their network of snitches. Yes, you know who you are and it's payback time. ATF needs to put a stop to 15's and above getting calls from Field Agents that complain about the Office. It is always one sided and the snitch is usually not liked or wanted by the other Agents. These snitches are nothing but a cancer to ATF.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:20 PM

It is long overdue. Too many innocent people got hurt and their careers by these gangsters. I would like to finally see "what goes around, comes around"
 



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 10:44 AM

Hey abteilung, you just described most of ATF's Divisions. LOL

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

My old Division has a PIO who's been in that position for several years, although he's touted as one of the best case agents out there. But when he didn't get RAC in his office, which he and WonderBoy thought he was entitled to, he was placed in the PIO slot and has occupied that space during what could have been "productive" case years. He's not even a Joe Green type PIO. He fucked up one interview in which he said "Agents are on duty 24/7" when he should have explained that the agent in question took action because, one, it was a Hobbs Act robbery, and, two, in the state in which the action occurred, federal agents have peace officer status and can arrest for state felonies.
The rest of the Division was full of agents who used their GOV's purely for commuting. They arrived at work at 9:30 - 10:00. They immediately went outside to buy coffee. They returned to the office, checked their TSP's, did some e-mail, then went out for 2 hour lunches. They'd go back to the office, watch the afternoon game shows on TV, check e-mail again, and then go get smoothies. Come back to the office, write up an ROI about getting a lab report from the PD's firearm unit, then go home at 4PM. I was in an arson group. I was out at 5AM at bodega fires. I was out Saturday night when some knucklehead threatened to blow up his mother with a couple of IED's. I worked three fires scenes in two days, 40 miles apart.
But who got shit tossed on them by management? Not the desk jockeys. This agency amounts to nothing because its management is all empty suits, and they value agents who are useless except for kissing ass.

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 07:05 AM

ProConfesso, I agree with you. There are just way too many Agents that leave the Field, to some HQ or Training Position, Promote and never return to the field. Of course, the real headaches are in the Field. Thus, so many run from real work and want 9 to 4:30 jobs. Until ATF puts these sissy agents back in the field, nothing will change. These sissy agents all know who they are and continue to hide. Four years is the maximum any agent should spend away from the field.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:44 AM

And speaking of sending 20 agents to Chicago today to combat gun violence....In 2004 an ATF DD needed to spend down funds budgeted for moves and transfers - some things in the federal bureaucracy never change, i.e. next years budget won't increase if you don't waste, fraud and abuse all your current funds, so he commissioned his secretary, yes his secretary, to do a phoney "study."  This effectuated the unwanted transfer of a seasoned Chicago agent to Yakima, WA where no doubt the need necessitated.  ATF showing it was ahead of the crime trend.   



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:09 AM

Associate Deputy Director Ronald Turk's memo:

http://apps.washingt...gulations/2325/

 

"positive steps to further reduce gun violence through enforcement or regulation are extremely important but are not the focus of this paper."  One might argue that reducing gun violence through enforcement should be your sole focus.  A cursory read of this "memo" reads like what someone might write after a night out with an industry lobbyist.  I'd liken this to the verbiage that gets fed to Congressional staffers and written into law verbatim from lobbyist, like in the pharmaceutical industry, that serves only the interest of the corporation.  Perhaps we will learn the motives behind this some day.

How about this just off the top of my head to "suggest changes" - send all the program managers in hq to big cities, Chicago, NYC, Philadelphia etc..to combat gun violence.  Make ASAC's and Group Supervisors handle an actual case load. Eliminate the useless Public Information Officer sinecure position in each Field Division and add another brick agent to the roster.  Take away government vehicles from the agent stenographers (whole groups in most field divisions) that do nothing more than receive fax local police reports and cherry pick cases for federal prosecution.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:07 AM

OK, ATF does the right thing and forces Charlie Smith to retire. I didn't hear what deal was worked out. However, glad the hypocrite was shown the door. Good for Tom Brandon, for having the courage to do what's right. With AG Sessions now running the DOJ, I hope ATF can return to the Agency it used to be. Let the workers work and give Supervisors the ability to run off trouble makers.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 05:51 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...tion/index.html

 

http://dailycaller.c...ired-at-the-va/

 

A drop in the bucket (maybe a drop in the reservoir is more realistic), but it's at least a start.  


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 09:57 AM

I have a question. What did ATF ever do about then, ASAC Charlie Smith; Dallas F.D, spending all that time in the Oklahoma casinos? Of course, he found the time, while in the casinos to bust the Agents balls. I hope Tom Brandon did what's right and showed Charlie Smith the door. Last I heard, Charlie Smith was in the HQ area.

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 06:23 AM

I would think the new leadership for ATF is going to come from outside the agency. Media is reporting Jeff Sessions is being nominated for AG. He has an A plus rating by the NRA.

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 03:41 PM

It is going to be interesting to see what ATF looks like under the new president. I suspect, at a minimum, there will be a hiring freeze and a loosing of regulations and laws.

Cant help but believe there will be budget cuts for sure. Thats easily handled but our "leaders" are never going to do it because their gain has been more important than the mission for years. Cut the number of 14s, 15, and SES's. FACT: we have 3 or 4 or 5 of them in positions that were done by one 11 or 12 historically.


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