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[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

I'm saying here and in the open. Obama, Holder, DOJ Attorneys, ATF leadership - you are punks and bitches.

 

This ain't over by a long shot. They are appealing to delay the inevitable - a full exposure of their crimes corruption in this matter that was not documented in the Judge's opinion.  There is dirt here that very few know about yet.  I was going to let this end but DOJ decided it needed to stay alive so its f***ing on!

 

You can run but you can't hide you f***ing sissies. Now I'm even more determined to make sure everyone finds out about them.  You want to keep the fight going?  They reap the whirlwind of what you did.  Can you guys spell F-E-L-O-N-Y and P-R-I-S-O-N?  Can you afford to lose your jobs and law licenses?  You better have thought that out because I'm coming with facts and evidence much worse than what the judge documented in trial.

 

You sit in your arrogant suits and think you have it figured out.  You think you are above the law and can get away with anything you please.  Check yourselves because here is how it works in the real world.  This is a bar fight.  Not the DC social bars you guys go to.  A real bar.   The guy who wins a bar fight isn't the best puncher or the one with the best MMA choke holds.  The guy who wins is the one who is willing to die to win.  I've been there with those stakes on the line.  Have you?  I hope you're ready.

 

You're not going to look good in orange jumpsuits with "DOC" on the backs.  Don't drop the soap, sleep with your backs to walls and make sure your pod doesn't allow broom handles to be present after lights out.

 

I'm gunna see to it that you are braiding cornrows wearing halter tops and lipstick before this is over.

 

 

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I'm coming with all of it.  With all the information that they thought slipped through the cracks.  All the dirt that they thought the Judge would never see or know about.  I told you to trust me and that the trial opinion was going to be brutal.  It was.  Now trust me again.  The behind-the-scenes story of what took place and that I was choking down is going to get let out and it is very bad.  Disgusting bad. 

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

I'm saying here and in the open. Obama, Holder, DOJ Attorneys, ATF leadership - you are punks and bitches.

This ain't over by a long shot. They are appealing to delay the inevitable - a full exposure of their crimes corruption in this matter that was not documented in the Judge's opinion. There is dirt here that very few know about yet. I was going to let this end but DOJ decided it needed to stay alive so its f***ing on!

You can run but you can't hide you f***ing sissies. Now I'm even more determined to make sure everyone finds out about them. You want to keep the fight going? They reap the whirlwind of what you did. Can you guys spell F-E-L-O-N-Y and P-R-I-S-O-N? Can you afford to lose your jobs and law licenses? You better have thought that out because I'm coming with facts and evidence much worse than what the judge documented.

You sit in your arrogant suits and think you have it figured out. Here is how it works in the real world. This is a bar fight. Not the DC social bars you guys go to. A real bar. The guy who wins a bar fight isn't the best puncher or the one with the best MMA choke holds. The guy who wins is the one who is willing to die to win. I've been there with those stakes on the line. Have you? I hope you're ready.

You're not going to look good in orange jumpsuits with "DOC" on the backs. Don't drop the soap, sleep with your backs to walls and make sure your pod doesn't allow broom handles to be present after lights out.

I'm gunna see to it that you are braiding cornrows wearing halter tops and lipstick before this is over.


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Another example of the total lack of leadership and pettiness of our Director and Deputy Director. Rather than use their authority to direct DOJ to accept a lawful decision rendered by a FEDERAL COURT, they choose to be vindictive and petty. Mr. Jones and Brandon, you are wasting further tax payer $$$$ to fight a fight you ALREADY LOST. Dont want to hear any crying when the fallout from this appeal costs you you future careers or lands some of you in jail. How many more precious resources and man hours are you prepared to waste to sooth your egos?

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

I'm saying here and in the open. Obama, Holder, DOJ Attorneys, ATF leadership - you are punks and bitches.

 

This ain't over by a long shot. They are appealing to delay the inevitable - a full exposure of their crimes corruption in this matter that was not documented in the Judge's opinion.  There is dirt here that very few know about yet.  I was going to let this end but DOJ decided it needed to stay alive so its f***ing on!

 

You can run but you can't hide you f***ing sissies. Now I'm even more determined to make sure everyone finds out about them.  You want to keep the fight going?  They reap the whirlwind of what you did.  Can you guys spell F-E-L-O-N-Y and P-R-I-S-O-N?  Can you afford to lose your jobs and law licenses?  You better have thought that out because I'm coming with facts and evidence much worse than what the judge documented in trial.

 

You sit in your arrogant suits and think you have it figured out.  You think you are above the law and can get away with anything you please.  Check yourselves because here is how it works in the real world.  This is a bar fight.  Not the DC social bars you guys go to.  A real bar.   The guy who wins a bar fight isn't the best puncher or the one with the best MMA choke holds.  The guy who wins is the one who is willing to die to win.  I've been there with those stakes on the line.  Have you?  I hope you're ready.

 

You're not going to look good in orange jumpsuits with "DOC" on the backs.  Don't drop the soap, sleep with your backs to walls and make sure your pod doesn't allow broom handles to be present after lights out.

 

I'm gunna see to it that you are braiding cornrows wearing halter tops and lipstick before this is over.

 

 

http://www.examiner....ettlement-order

 

 

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[GoodWorker]

http://www.azcentral...obyns/17847349/

 

Feds to appeal case against former ATF agent

 

Its back on bitches!  Let's go!  I was content with Judge Allegra's opinion.  DOJ has changed all that!  Holder and crew want to keep fighting.  Lets just start today, right now, this second. 

Typical ATF move.  Instead of doing a criminal investigation on the "leaders" and terminating the "leaders," they try to protect the "leaders."  I hope that future employers of retired ATF "leaders" visit this web page to see what type of candidates they are getting in some former ATF "leaders."  Their titles may be impressive but a lot of these guys and gals are NOT.  Some people have changed their last name.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

http://www.azcentral...obyns/17847349/

 

Feds to appeal case against former ATF agent

 

Its back on bitches!  Let's go!  I was content with Judge Allegra's opinion.  DOJ has changed all that!  Holder and crew want to keep fighting.  Lets just start today, right now, this second. 

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

The battle continues.

 

Today DOJ and ATF appealed the judge's decision on my lawsuit.  It will now be heard before the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals.  When?  Not sure.  How long?  Maybe years.

 

But,

 

I will never give in and I am excited to now have a panel of judges examine what ATF and DOJ have done.  ATF and DOJ want more scrutiny on their conduct?  Let's go!

 

I wrongly believed that they would not want any more exposure on what dirty and corrupt organizations they are running but it appears that they have not yet felt enough pain.  They will.  I promise.

 

Got some insider scoop from a DOJ source.  I cannot validate this but it is an interesting perspective.  I was told that DOJ is out to tank and dismantle ATF circuitously and that this case is being used as a pawn to display how poorly ATF is managed.  The attention given the judge's opinion did not reach the "critical mass DOJ anticipated" and additional oversight of ATF's conduct may get them there.  Sad.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

The battle continues.

 

Today DOJ and ATF appealed the judge's decision on my lawsuit.  It will now be heard before the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals.  When?  Not sure.  How long?  Maybe years.

 

But,

 

I will never give in and I am excited to now have a panel of judges examine what ATF and DOJ have done.  ATF and DOJ want more scrutiny on their conduct?  Let's go!

 

I wrongly believed that they would not want any more exposure on what dirty and corrupt organizations they are running but it appears that they have not yet felt enough pain.  They will.  I promise.

[GoodWorker]

Wow, sounds like he did his research at ATF HQ

ATF leaders promoting their unqualified friends results in the worst computer roll out in government history. Oh yeah, HQ buys new uniforms for all the agents without asking the field what they think of the new uniforms and vests.  Very few people like the new uniforms so what does ATF do?  They buy all new ones wasting even more money.  These are superficial changes that do not impact anything other than the government check book.  We need to put better people on the promotion boards so that they do things legitimately and QUALIFIED people get the jobs they should be in and the waste and incompetence comes to a halt.

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

Wow, sounds like he did his research at ATF HQ

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

Check out the book Toxic Boss Blues http://www.amazon.co...l/dp/098988127X

 

It has just been released.  Very enlightening.  Author Steve Neal breaks down the break downs in law enforcement management.

 

Some of the chapter titles:  The Bully, The Arrogant, The Indecisive, The Incompetent, The Micromanager, The Untruthful, The Morally Bankrupt, The Suck-Up, The Egghead.

 

 

[GoodWorker]

This sounds like the -present day- sort of retaliation in ATF
http://www.examiner....-of-coming-woes

We all need to step up and keep the pressure up since Vince, Jay, and John have been carrying the honest employees of ATF.  It seems that there are plenty of people out there have made a freedom of information act request and ATF blew us all off.  That sure seems like good grounds for a class action or any of the other multiple violations of policy and law.

[Jaime3]

Mr. Jone and Mr. Brandon...............Read this story and take notes.

This sounds like the -present day- sort of retaliation in ATF
http://www.examiner....-of-coming-woes

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

As a personal example.  If you read the judges opinion on my lawsuit, look at Vidoli did, and didn't do.  They just promoted him to AD Field Ops.  That's one good example of why ATF is incapable of improvement under this regime.  They hold no shame.

Mr. Jone and Mr. Brandon...............Read this story and take notes.

[Loyal to ATF]

Scratching my head as to why ATF leadership didn't take the same steps as the VA?
http://www.theblaze....o-major-scandal

Mr. Jone and Mr. Brandon...............Read this story and take notes.

[Jaime3]

Scratching my head as to why ATF leadership didn't take the same steps as the VA?
http://www.theblaze....o-major-scandal

[Fedupwrkr]

 

 

What now Director Jones and DD Brandon

You allowed the agency to abuse me and my family for 8 yrs only to admit you were wrong. But you knew that all along. Nothing in the case changed over the last two years, yet you refused to settle, continued wasting taxpayers dollars and precious court time only to do what you should have done years ago. It is true, in the settlement you forced my retirement. BUT you still have to reconcile not only keeping the managers responsible for this on your payroll, but promoted them.

You have been aware of the perjury, false statements (18 USC 1001), gross mismanagement and waste fraud and abuse by members of your executive staff and field managers and have done nothing. In fact you went to heroic measures to defend them. May explain the continued failures.

The record is clear now, Gleysteen, Downs, Martin, Vido, Bouman, Loos and an entire cast, (usual suspects) retaliated against me for trying to resolve my grievances within the system. Will there be any accountability or consequences for violating their oath of office? I suspect not. My true win comes from the knowledge that the field DOES NOT and WILL NOT accept your reckless leadership and are not afraid to call you out anymore.

I will always be ATF but you cannot say that because to you, its a job.

Congratulations Vince.  Too bad for you and your family that you had to wait so long for this result.  It gives me hope.  However, going through the process is not easy.  

[Fedupwrkr]

What now Director Jones and DD Brandon

You allowed the agency to abuse me and my family for 8 yrs only to admit you were wrong. But you knew that all along. Nothing in the case changed over the last two years, yet you refused to settle, continued wasting taxpayers dollars and precious court time only to do what you should have done years ago. It is true, in the settlement you forced my retirement. BUT you still have to reconcile not only keeping the managers responsible for this on your payroll, but promoted them.

You have been aware of the perjury, false statements (18 USC 1001), gross mismanagement and waste fraud and abuse by members of your executive staff and field managers and have done nothing. In fact you went to heroic measures to defend them. May explain the continued failures.

The record is clear now, Gleysteen, Downs, Martin, Vido, Bouman, Loos and an entire cast, (usual suspects) retaliated against me for trying to resolve my grievances within the system. Will there be any accountability or consequences for violating their oath of office? I suspect not. My true win comes from the knowledge that the field DOES NOT and WILL NOT accept your reckless leadership and are not afraid to call you out anymore.

I will always be ATF but you cannot say that because to you, its a job.

[GoodWorker]

 

What now Director Jones and DD Brandon

You allowed the agency to abuse me and my family for 8 yrs only to admit you were wrong. But you knew that all along. Nothing in the case changed over the last two years, yet you refused to settle, continued wasting taxpayers dollars and precious court time only to do what you should have done years ago. It is true, in the settlement you forced my retirement. BUT you still have to reconcile not only keeping the managers responsible for this on your payroll, but promoted them.

 

You have been aware of the perjury, false statements (18 USC 1001), gross mismanagement and waste fraud and abuse by members of your executive staff and field managers and have done nothing. In fact you went to heroic measures to defend them. May explain the continued failures.

 

The record is clear now, Gleysteen, Downs, Martin, Vido, Bouman, Loos and an entire cast, (usual suspects) retaliated against me for trying to resolve my grievances within the system. Will there be any accountability or consequences for violating their oath of office? I suspect not. My true win comes from the knowledge that the field DOES NOT and WILL NOT accept your reckless leadership and are not afraid to call you out anymore.

 

I will always be ATF but you cannot say that because to you, its a job.

 

Well put SA Cefalu and thank you for fighting the good fight.  I can't wait to see the movie of how you, Jay, and other great agents fought to bring change to ATF and you all may possibly get congress to listen to all of us about the illegal and unethical conduct that has taken place within ATF which may result in this rudderless ship being closed down because the ATF leadership ran the agency into some rocks just like the Captain of the Costa Concordia capsizing the ship off of the coast of Giglio, Italy.  The irony of my analogy just came to me because of the dishonesty (Giglio) exhibited by so many bosses and counsel in their efforts to retaliate against our whistleblowers.

[GoodWorker]

Schedule B conversion authority given to the Director?????? Why does that stink of lowering the bar? If you cant pass the TEA test after 4 years of college, it MIGHT suggest you're not a good fit for the Agency. Why would we WANT to convert sub-standard Agents?

Loyal,

  I was thinking the exact same thing but it looks like the door may be open for them to appoint more of their unqualified buddies to GS position or more.

[Loyal to ATF]

Schedule B conversion authority given to the Director?????? Why does that stink of lowering the bar? If you cant pass the TEA test after 4 years of college, it MIGHT suggest you're not a good fit for the Agency. Why would we WANT to convert sub-standard Agents?

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

What now Director Jones and DD Brandon

You allowed the agency to abuse me and my family for 8 yrs only to admit you were wrong. But you knew that all along. Nothing in the case changed over the last two years, yet you refused to settle, continued wasting taxpayers dollars and precious court time only to do what you should have done years ago. It is true, in the settlement you forced my retirement. BUT you still have to reconcile not only keeping the managers responsible for this on your payroll, but promoted them.

 

You have been aware of the perjury, false statements (18 USC 1001), gross mismanagement and waste fraud and abuse by members of your executive staff and field managers and have done nothing. In fact you went to heroic measures to defend them. May explain the continued failures.

 

The record is clear now, Gleysteen, Downs, Martin, Vido, Bouman, Loos and an entire cast, (usual suspects) retaliated against me for trying to resolve my grievances within the system. Will there be any accountability or consequences for violating their oath of office? I suspect not. My true win comes from the knowledge that the field DOES NOT and WILL NOT accept your reckless leadership and are not afraid to call you out anymore.

 

I will always be ATF but you cannot say that because to you, its a job.

 

 

 

 

 

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

I know that many of you want AND deserve details. I will gladly do so in the very near future. I need a minute to catch my breath. However I would be highly remiss if I did not point out that my settlement would not have occurred without the input of Special Agent in Charge Carlos Canino and that of Division counsel Allen. They conducted themselves with honor and integrity and represented the Bureau and the with dignity. Executives Nationwide, take note of these type of managers and you may actually learn something. To all of you who had my back, your loyalty will not be forgotten.

[abteilung]

That is outstanding news.  All good people should rejoice whenever justice is done.  Hopefully, this trend continues on with other ATF employees' legitimate cases.  My EEO [disability discrimination] is now in the "investigation" phase and this good news heartens me.  This gives me renewed strength to take on the evil people who run ATF.

[Doctor]

ATF SPECIAL AGENT VINCE CEFALU WINS!

 

ATF and DOJ folded in the 11th hour and settled his case pre-trial. 

 

They beat on him and taunted him and tried to humiliate him for 8 years.  He weathered the storm, fought back, never gave in or quit and, in the end, he broke them.  He set an example to all agents who feel like they have no choice but to take the abuse.

 

If this case had gone to trial ATF executives would have lost their jobs behind the evidence.  Disgusting and despicable behavior.

 

When is America, Congress, DOJ going to have had enough with these ATF bosses trying to crush the life out of their employees in retaliation for doing the right thing?  Where are you Congress?  Do the whistleblower protection laws count or not?  DO SOMETHING!

 

The best part: a rep of the government told Vince that ATF Director B. Todd Jones hates him (Vince) more than any other person on earth. 

 

That is a compliment and badge of honor.  That guy is a lousy POS who thinks nothing of sacrificing agents who dare say something he doesn't like.  Who cares what B. Todd thinks about anything?!?!  He's biggest misfit Director in the history of ATF and that is not easy to do.

 

B.Todd, put on your next resume that you wrecked the lives and careers of more good agents than any of your predecessors.

 

Jones and his coattail-riding, muppet-groupie, executives need to be fired. 

 

Guaranteed - everyone of those no-balls followers that say yes to everything he wants will be mf-ing him the second he resigns or is fired-Guaranteed.

As with Dobyns, every now and again the good guys win.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

ATF SPECIAL AGENT VINCE CEFALU WINS!

 

ATF and DOJ folded in the 11th hour and settled his case pre-trial. 

 

They beat on him and taunted him and tried to humiliate him for 8 years.  He weathered the storm, fought back, never gave in or quit and, in the end, he broke them.  He set an example to all agents who feel like they have no choice but to take the abuse.

 

If this case had gone to trial ATF executives would have lost their jobs behind the evidence.  Disgusting and despicable behavior.

 

When is America, Congress, DOJ going to have had enough with these ATF bosses trying to crush the life out of their employees in retaliation for doing the right thing?  Where are you Congress?  Do the whistleblower protection laws count or not?  DO SOMETHING!

 

The best part: a rep of the government told Vince that ATF Director B. Todd Jones hates him (Vince) more than any other person on earth. 

 

That is a compliment and badge of honor.  That guy is a lousy POS who thinks nothing of sacrificing agents who dare say something he doesn't like.  Who cares what B. Todd thinks about anything?!?!  He's biggest misfit Director in the history of ATF and that is not easy to do.

 

B.Todd, put on your next resume that you wrecked the lives and careers of more good agents than any of your predecessors.

 

Jones and his coattail-riding, muppet-groupie, executives need to be fired. 

 

Guaranteed - everyone of those no-balls followers that say yes to everything he wants will be mf-ing him the second he resigns or is fired-Guaranteed.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

Vince Cefalu's trial starts on Monday in San Francisco.  The treatment he has received is yet another example of ATF management's mistreatment of an employee and DOJ's expensive effort to defend it.  If you are in the area and want to hear the truth and facts, I believe it is open to the public.  Shame, shame, shame on ATF.  There is no 'low' to which they are unwilling to sink.  Expect the facts to be disgusting.

 

Special Agent and Whistleblower Vince Cefalu's Trial Against ATF For Retaliation Starts Monday

http://townhall.com/...-today-n1899847

[abteilung]

Gotta a better one. When they forced ne into the SOO job, under Martin and Gleysteen, they were storing FULL generators, AND full 5gal.Gas cans, AND flares INSIDE A LOCKED AND SEALED convex box. Additionally they had flammable liquids stored right next to the opening of the conex box. It would have been the biggest pipe bomb ever seen. And this was in proximity to civilian entrances to b7listings and parking garages. To make it worse, Gleysteen was a self proclaimed arson guy. You cant make this up.

Vince:

I believe you 1000%.  And if something happened, they would've blamed it all on you.

 

The Philly division's explosives magazine was in deplorable condition for years, but instead of replacing it, ATF granted itself a waiver year after year.  And then one year my bully GS, "One Case" tried to write me up for the conditions of the bunker, even though the conditions predated my tenure as evidence custodian.  Yeah, they finally got a new bunker, but that all but took an act of Congress.  So much for being the "explosives" police.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

ATF's leadership would never resign.  They've never made a mistake - just ask them.  Power of the press.  Its the only oversight that seems to accomplish change in DC.

The Secret Service Director did the right thing after her people let the secrets out of the bag.  Just imagine what our agents have to reveal if they get the opportunity to speak before congress.

 

http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=25889952

[GoodWorker]

Gotta a better one. When they forced ne into the SOO job, under Martin and Gleysteen, they were storing FULL generators, AND full 5gal.Gas cans, AND flares INSIDE A LOCKED AND SEALED convex box. Additionally they had flammable liquids stored right next to the opening of the conex box. It would have been the biggest pipe bomb ever seen. And this was in proximity to civilian entrances to b7listings and parking garages. To make it worse, Gleysteen was a self proclaimed arson guy. You cant make this up.

The Secret Service Director did the right thing after her people let the secrets out of the bag.  Just imagine what our agents have to reveal if they get the opportunity to speak before congress.

 

http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=25889952

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

Why is the Dallas NRT truck parked right by the Dallas ambulance being quarantined for Ebola?
 
http://dfw.cbslocal....-case-isolated/
 
Only in ATF........
 
This is almost as bad as the time when Philly bosses put cans full of gasoline and a gasoline powered generator in the back of the Philly NRT truck for a division callout.

Gotta a better one. When they forced ne into the SOO job, under Martin and Gleysteen, they were storing FULL generators, AND full 5gal.Gas cans, AND flares INSIDE A LOCKED AND SEALED convex box. Additionally they had flammable liquids stored right next to the opening of the conex box. It would have been the biggest pipe bomb ever seen. And this was in proximity to civilian entrances to b7listings and parking garages. To make it worse, Gleysteen was a self proclaimed arson guy. You cant make this up.

[abteilung]

Why is the Dallas NRT truck parked right by the Dallas ambulance being quarantined for Ebola?

 

http://dfw.cbslocal....-case-isolated/

 

Only in ATF........

 

This is almost as bad as the time when Philly bosses put cans full of gasoline and a gasoline powered generator in the back of the Philly NRT truck for a division callout.

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

We ask for prayers for the speedy recovery of our Agent who was shot during an attempted rip-off in Athens, Ga. Yesterday. We are all very proud of you. This is a reminder to all of you. Be careful out there.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

If you are so inclined, these are the staffers to contact.  They are the ones who make a difference and advise their Congressmen and Senators on what is important.

 

mike.ringler@mail.house.gov;

leslie.albright@mail.house.gov;

jeff.ashford@mail.house.gov;

diana.simpson@mail.house.gov;

colin.samples@mail.house.gov;

robert.bonner@mail.house.gov;

matthew.smith@mail.house.gov

Stephen.Castor@mail.house.gov;

Tristan_Leavitt@judiciary-rep.senate.gov;

ryan.little@mail.house.gov;

Bart.Forsyth@mail.house.gov

Amy.Bos@mail.house.gov;

Ben.Miller@mail.house.gov;

Chris.Terris@mail.house.gov

 

Dear Staff Members to the Committee on Appropriations,

 

My name is Jay Dobyns.  I am a retired ATF Agent.  I recently won a verdict in the United States Court of Federal Claims against ATF.  The case was defended by DOJ.  The broadest view of my lawsuit was retaliation.

 

I know that you do not review agency personnel matters.  But, I also know that you are very interested in Fraud, Waste and Abuse.

 

The Fraud, Waste and Abuse committed by ATF and DOJ over the six-year span of lawsuit was done knowingly, intentionally and with a disgusting disregard for your oversight.

 

I am not asking you to take up for me.  I have done that for myself. 

 

I am asking you to examine the conduct of ATF and DOJ in this matter and form your own conclusions if the money you appropriate to those agencies was spent with America's best interest at heart.  Millions of dollars were wasted and without your examination of the facts, that process will be empowered to continue.

 

I have attached two documents for your review.  My News Release and the Opinion of Judge Francis Allegra.

 

Below are some media links to preliminary coverage of the story.  It is far from over.

 

Respectfully,

 

Jay Dobyns

(310) 991-2837

 

Fox News Judge rebukes ATF over treatment of agent who infiltrated Hells Angels  http://www.foxnews.c...d-hells-angels/

 

ABC/AP  Retired Agent Awarded $173,000 in ATF Lawsuit  http://abcnews.go.co...awsuit-25552099

 

Daily Caller Undercover Hero Wins Landmark Case Against Holder’s DOJ  http://dailycaller.c...st-holders-doj/

 

Examiner ‘No Angel’ Dobyns wins 'David and Goliath’ challenge against ATF  http://www.examiner....nge-against-atf

 

Townhall  https://townhall.com...ingNewsCarousel

 

Phoenix New Times  http://blogs.phoenix...in_court_ru.php

 

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst." - Aristotle

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

Dear Staff Members to the Committee on Appropriations,

 

My name is Jay Dobyns.  I am a retired ATF Agent.  I recently won a verdict in the United States Court of Federal Claims against ATF.  The case was defended by DOJ.  The broadest view of my lawsuit was retaliation.

 

I know that you do not review agency personnel matters.  But, I also know that you are very interested in Fraud, Waste and Abuse.

 

The Fraud, Waste and Abuse committed by ATF and DOJ over the six-year span of lawsuit was done knowingly, intentionally and with a disgusting disregard for your oversight.

 

I am not asking you to take up for me.  I have done that for myself. 

 

I am asking you to examine the conduct of ATF and DOJ in this matter and form your own conclusions if the money you appropriate to those agencies was spent with America's best interest at heart.  Millions of dollars were wasted and without your examination of the facts, that process will be empowered to continue.

 

I have attached two documents for your review.  My News Release and the Opinion of Judge Francis Allegra.

 

Below are some media links to preliminary coverage of the story.  It is far from over.

 

Respectfully,

 

Jay Dobyns

(310) 991-2837

 

Fox News Judge rebukes ATF over treatment of agent who infiltrated Hells Angels  http://www.foxnews.c...d-hells-angels/

 

ABC/AP  Retired Agent Awarded $173,000 in ATF Lawsuit  http://abcnews.go.co...awsuit-25552099

 

Daily Caller Undercover Hero Wins Landmark Case Against Holder’s DOJ  http://dailycaller.c...st-holders-doj/

 

Examiner ‘No Angel’ Dobyns wins 'David and Goliath’ challenge against ATF  http://www.examiner....nge-against-atf

 

Townhall  https://townhall.com...ingNewsCarousel

 

Phoenix New Times  http://blogs.phoenix...in_court_ru.php

 

Heres your chance people. If you think the Agency has been reckless in using its resources to attack it agents and investigator......Take the time to write committee members. It appears that our mission has changed from combating violent crime to combating agents who stand up to retaliation and corrupt managers.

[abteilung]

Does anyone else find it bizzare that ERIC HOLDER just got a job at Jp Morgan Chase. The SAME place former ATF big boss BILL MCMAHON went to work after overseeing Fast and Furious and then lied to Congress and double dipped with Brandons approval. Wow, A little scary. Wonder if Mr. JONES or brandon will be joining Chase.

Don't expect him to hold that job very long.  A little birdie inside the Beltway just whispered in my ear that Mr. Holder will get nominated for the next Supreme Court vacancy within the next 2 years.

[Loyal to ATF]

Update: My trial has now been defined for U S District court in San Francisco. CANT Make this up. Oct 6 we begin with a jury trial on ONE count. Once that's concluded(probably 2 days), we will go into a bench trial on remaining counts (The remaining 3 days). The good news, the Judge ruled that the Gov. cant use the NAME calling defense, ie try to bring up every cuss word or joking email to defend their actions. He ONLY wants the facts. SIMULTANEOUSLY, The Office of Special counsel is defending the bogus termination proposal from over 3 years ago and will be conducting discovery etc while my civil trial is going on. Then after my trial is over we will again go into court for yet another hearing on this issue.

This is insane. I have generated a Freedom of Information Act request to determine how much $$$$$$ ATF/ U S Attorneys office in San Francisco is spending of YOUR money, to burn me simply because I did what I was sworn to do, (they have not responded). Sad but these two trains are going to wreck shortly. Truly my only wish is after 8 yrs. YES you heard it 8 Yrs, that those responsible are held SERIOUSLY accountable so this can never happen to anyone else.

I think it would be safe to say that the Millions of dollars and tens of thousand of man hours expended to destroy Special Agent Dobyns, Special Agent Dodson, myself and MANY others could have been put to better use in advancing our mission against violent crime. But who am I to say. Much Love ALL. Stay Tuned.

Is your trial open to the public? Will ATF be forced to act against Gleysteen and Downs? Will the San Francisco U S Attorneys office be held accountable?

[Loyal to ATF]

It is called Fraud, Waste and Abuse and is in the wheelhouse of the Appropriations Committee that controls DOJ and ATF budgets to examine to see how badly those agencies are squandering the taxpayers money.

Is your trial open to the public? Will ATF be forced to act against Gleysteen and Downs? Will the San Francisco U S Attorneys office be held accountable?

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

Update: My trial has now been defined for U S District court in San Francisco. CANT Make this up. Oct 6 we begin with a jury trial on ONE count. Once that's concluded(probably 2 days), we will go into a bench trial on remaining counts (The remaining 3 days). The good news, the Judge ruled that the Gov. cant use the NAME calling defense, ie try to bring up every cuss word or joking email to defend their actions. He ONLY wants the facts. SIMULTANEOUSLY, The Office of Special counsel is defending the bogus termination proposal from over 3 years ago and will be conducting discovery etc while my civil trial is going on. Then after my trial is over we will again go into court for yet another hearing on this issue.

This is insane. I have generated a Freedom of Information Act request to determine how much $$$$$$ ATF/ U S Attorneys office in San Francisco is spending of YOUR money, to burn me simply because I did what I was sworn to do, (they have not responded). Sad but these two trains are going to wreck shortly. Truly my only wish is after 8 yrs. YES you heard it 8 Yrs, that those responsible are held SERIOUSLY accountable so this can never happen to anyone else.

I think it would be safe to say that the Millions of dollars and tens of thousand of man hours expended to destroy Special Agent Dobyns, Special Agent Dodson, myself and MANY others could have been put to better use in advancing our mission against violent crime. But who am I to say. Much Love ALL. Stay Tuned.

It is called Fraud, Waste and Abuse and is in the wheelhouse of the Appropriations Committee that controls DOJ and ATF budgets to examine to see how badly those agencies are squandering the taxpayers money.

[Loyal to ATF]

Does anyone else find it bizzare that ERIC HOLDER just got a job at Jp Morgan Chase. The SAME place former ATF big boss BILL MCMAHON went to work after overseeing Fast and Furious and then lied to Congress and double dipped with Brandons approval. Wow, A little scary. Wonder if Mr. JONES or brandon will be joining Chase.

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

Update: My trial has now been defined for U S District court in San Francisco. CANT Make this up. Oct 6 we begin with a jury trial on ONE count. Once that's concluded(probably 2 days), we will go into a bench trial on remaining counts (The remaining 3 days). The good news, the Judge ruled that the Gov. cant use the NAME calling defense, ie try to bring up every cuss word or joking email to defend their actions. He ONLY wants the facts. SIMULTANEOUSLY, The Office of Special counsel is defending the bogus termination proposal from over 3 years ago and will be conducting discovery etc while my civil trial is going on. Then after my trial is over we will again go into court for yet another hearing on this issue.

This is insane. I have generated a Freedom of Information Act request to determine how much $$$$$$ ATF/ U S Attorneys office in San Francisco is spending of YOUR money, to burn me simply because I did what I was sworn to do, (they have not responded). Sad but these two trains are going to wreck shortly. Truly my only wish is after 8 yrs. YES you heard it 8 Yrs, that those responsible are held SERIOUSLY accountable so this can never happen to anyone else.

I think it would be safe to say that the Millions of dollars and tens of thousand of man hours expended to destroy Special Agent Dobyns, Special Agent Dodson, myself and MANY others could have been put to better use in advancing our mission against violent crime. But who am I to say. Much Love ALL. Stay Tuned.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

“The world is a dangerous place, not because of the people who are evil,

but because of the people who don't do anything about it."

- Albert Einstein

 

[GoodWorker]

I really don't expect much from the next AG, whoever it is.  Deval Patrick's name is being mentioned, but he's being groomed behind the scenes to run for the Democrat nomination is 2016.  Being AG is probably not in his best interests.

 

My bet is on the Cali AG, Kamala Harris.  But again, whoever it will be, does it really matter?

Abteilung,  that is a pretty good guess on Harris but I do not think Michelle O. will let that happen since the President has already expressed his opinion on how attractive Harris is.  Congrats to Jay and Vince for keeping the pressure up and helping to cause some change.  Maybe some of these ATF "leaders" will start paying attention.

[abteilung]

I really don't expect much from the next AG, whoever it is.  Deval Patrick's name is being mentioned, but he's being groomed behind the scenes to run for the Democrat nomination is 2016.  Being AG is probably not in his best interests.

 

My bet is on the Cali AG, Kamala Harris.  But again, whoever it will be, does it really matter?

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

This was just sent to me.  Couldn't resist posting.

 

Jones Holder.jpg

It would be funny if it were not so TRUE and not so shameful. That man was a United States Attorney. I truly remember that throughout my entire career, they were the guys who wore the white hats.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

This was just sent to me.  Couldn't resist posting.

 

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[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

Perhaps now some integrity will be restored to the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. Not certain what ATF Execs will do without his protection.

 

You're welcome.  http://www.washingto...c=al_comboPEN_p

 

What you gunna do now Jones?  Yep, and take Brandon with you.

And by the way B. Todd, in spite of your aspirations you WILL NOT BE the nominee to replace him.

[VINCENT A CEFALU]

You're welcome. http://www.washingto...c=al_comboPEN_p

What you gunna do now Jones? Yep, and take Brandon with you.

Perhaps now some integrity will be restored to the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. Not certain what ATF Execs will do without his protection.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

You're welcome.  http://www.washingto...c=al_comboPEN_p

 

What you gunna do now Jones?  Yep, and take Brandon with you.

[Retired Agent Jay Dobyns]

In response to the below mention of DD Brandon's message to field regarding the bill introduced to take ATF, as we know it, out of play.
 
Brandon wrote: “Yesterday, a bill was introduced in the House of Representatives proposing to merge our Bureau with other federal law enforcements agencies. This is not the first time such legislation has been introduced, and may not be the last. It comes with the territory. On February 27th of this year, I had the honor of testifying before the Congressional Committee to which this latest bill was referred. During my testimony I honestly admitted that we could have done things differently with some of our storefront operations and that we had enhanced our policies to ensure better leadership and oversight in these types of operations.”
 
Do Brandon and Jones think this elimination bill is about storefront mistakes?  Do you get extra credit for testifying 'honestly"?  The bill is about your consistently inconsistent mismanagement of ATF.  They came in to fix things but only made them worse.  I don’t hold Jones and Brandon accountable for what those before them did.  I do hold them accountable for using the scared, non-leadership tactic of claiming the-past-is-the-past and for everyone to move on to not do anything.  They had the responsibility to fix what they inherited and prevent it from continuing.  They didn’t and made it worse.
 
Brandon wrote: “I was very open and forthright in my testimony before Congress, and today, as always, I will be candid and open with all of you:”
 
From personal experience this is a lie.  Others have similar experiences.  “Always”, “Candid and open” you are not.  While you were trying to force my retirement and supporting DOJ’s known false position to the court that ATF's IAD report was irrelevant to my case, you were holding that very report away from me.  I only got it because the judge ordered it to me.  Apparently your always open and candid meme did line up with Judge Allegra’s assessment because he cited the report throughout his findings, found it entirely relevant, and was dismayed that you took no action to correct any of the conclusions.   You were the opposite of candid and open.  You were deceitful and covering up.
 
Brandon wrote: “I've had the honor as serving as your Deputy Director for almost 3 years now. And while serving as your Deputy, I expect my leadership to be always be evaluated, from both inside and outside of ATF. It also comes with the turf and it is not unique to ATF. I accept that and wouldn't want it any other way. But know this: The Director and I will always be honest and open with all of you and support you in what you do every day for America.”
 
Niether you nor Jones are open to evaluation.  Where should I start with the list of people you’ve crushed who disagreed with you?  It is long and distinguished.  Actually some of your inner circle have told me that the retaliations I experienced from you and Jones are because of I hurt your feelings over the things I wrote or said about you.  Not one thing I said or wrote is false and can’t be backed up.  Your both so sensitive its embarrassing.  Man up and grow a pair.
 
Brandon wrote: "Under the leadership of Director Jones we have all made great progress, moving forward and improving."
 
Really?  How so?  Why would you embarass yourself by writing this to the field?  Explain in at least minor detail what “great progress” has been made.  One real example will do.  You have been the DD for three years.  At that time, ATF was in bad shape but there was no bill in existence to terminate the agency.  In the 3 years you guys have been in charge that has come about.  Moving forward and improving?  Just stop.  Your flattering yourselves.  You’ve failed and have ATF on the verge of extinction.  Maybe if you keep telling yourselves how good your doing someday it can come true.  Try clicking your heels together.
 

 
THE MOST RECENT REFLECTION OF YOUR "LEADERSHIP" IS YOUR PROMOTION OF MARVIN RICHARDSON.  READ THE OIG REPORT SUBMITTED AS A PART OF MY LAWSUIT. 

 

THE OSC AND OIG CONCLUDED THAT RICHARDSON LIED TO THEM DURING THEIR INVESTIGATION.  HE BURIED THREAT SITUATIONS AGAINST ME THAT ALLGRA CITED IN HIS OPINION. 

 

RICHARDSON LIED TO COVER HIS INCOMPETENCE BUT MADE THE MISTAKE OF TRYING TO IMPLICATE OTHER AGENTS TO PROTECT HIS LIE.  UNFORTUNATELY FOR 'MARVELOUS' THEY WEREN'T COVERING FOR HIM AND TOLD THE INVESTIGATORS HE LIED. 

 

MARVIN THEN CAME TO HQ AND IMMEDIATELY MADE "LESS THAN CANDOR" AN EVENT THAT SUPERVISORS COULD NOT BE TERMINATED FOR.
 
 
WHY IS ATF READY TO BE EXTERMINATED?  BRANDON AND JONES ARE WHY AND ALL THEIR PUPPETS WHO WOULD RATHER HAVE THEIR AGENCY CRASHED THAN STAND UP TO THEM.