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#101 Jaime3

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:26 PM

So the fix to Gun Control is to hire more ATF personnel, not considering ATF has never put in a dollar figure how much taxpayer's dollars have been wasted on corruption within the Bureau? Please tell me I'm dreaming?

Now I get it. Bring on more personnel to help further the agenda of corruption, along with wasting even more taxpayer's money.

That's like fixing the front of a building, buying a lot of things to make it look nice, while there's a huge hole in the back.
Band aid for a bullet wound

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 01:15 PM

This is what I posted on the ATFA facebook page. No big surprise its populated by many of the managers who are respnsible for ATFs current feckless state. Needless to say they support Brandon. Thats ALL I needed to hear. Brandon has failed on every front. He reversed himself on his own NEEDED changes due to political and Chief Counsel pressure. He has failed miserably. When the Attorney General recently held a press conference to advise Brandon would NOT be nominated, she said "Gaurdian". Suffice to say its obvious whos pulling his puppet strings. Crenshaw, Gleysteen, Martin, Gerido, Richardson, Torres etc etc etc. THIS is Brandons ATF. He had a chance to be a leader or a self promoting Bureaucrat. He chose the latter.

 

Here is my earlier post. The above post was reposted by me from Desertrat.

 

What about dumping all the 1811s in non enforcement positions back into the field. When I left less than 2 yrs ago there was OVER 25% of our agents in HQ or in the field NOT working cases. 2 ASACs in every field division where there was one. Point of fact, SFFD HAS 30 less agents than when we had 1 ASAC. Focused use of resources and mission focus instead or mass personal advancement will not only increase ATF productivity but save taxpayer dollars. In other words, less cherrywood furniture and more cases.

Desertrat..... Along the same lines as your above experience, I watched Steve Martin morph and totally innocuous run of the mill lying and buying case into an International Neutrality act case in which most if not all of the charges were dismissed amid sweeping allegations of gross Gov. misconduct. The related search warrant retrieved ONE gun and a black rhino horn. Martin convinced Dir. Sullivan to come out and hold a huge press conference. Martin got promoted to DAD. YOU CANT make this shit up.


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 01:11 PM

 

Posted Yesterday, 04:48 PM

I remember one case which to this day which makes me laugh thinking about ATF number scams played by some RACs and Agents.  Having to be part of a cover team and listening to the wire was like listening to Saturday Night Live.   It started out as couple of SA's finding some down and out tweakers in a run down trailer park.  They let it be known that they had money and were looking to buy some meth.  The tweakers said sure we can help make that happen and began selling them very small quantities of overpriced meth which they cut the crap out. 

 

Needing to put some numbers on the table for case productivity, the two agents asked them if they knew anyone interested in selling guns.  When asked what kind of guns the Agents wanted, the response was "like sawed off shotguns or machine guns".  One tweaker said "I know a guy with a shotgun" and the second one said "I have a hack saw".  A few minutes later there was shotgun, hack saw and a custom cut down operation going on to make the shotgun short enough to be illegal (at the Agents directions).  Again, the Agents paid crazy high prices for a piece of crap cut up shotgun to encourage future greedy bad behavior.  

 

A few days later there was another meth buy and the Agents now turned the conversation to "do you know anyone who could sell us pipe bombs"?   The bewildered tweakers figured these idiots would pay well for anything.  Once they asked the Agents to explain what a pipe bomb was and how to make it, the tweakers said, sure....come back tomorrow.  The next day there was a buy made of a hodge podge of PVC and metal pipes filled with gun powder.  Again, the Agents paid crazy high prices and were told they can have as many as they wanted.  

 

When the "bombs" were cracked open with a water bolt, they contained mostly underwear, socks and miscellaneous laundry as space filler.  The idiots figured they could stretch their gun powder  budgets and maximize profit by using small amounts of power and more laundry.  

 

In the end, the RAC spun the case as a 924© drug conspiracy using Title II firearms and explosives (short shotgun and pipe bombs).  Big search warrant and press conference on the "bomb making ring" and even some BS about connections to drug cartels.  I even think there were a bunch of awards given!!  You just can't make this shit up!

 

So, the moral of the story and others like Fast and Furious, if you need some numbers to justify something, just go out and create your own criminals and crimes. Hold a press conference and convince everyone how you are making the community safer.

 

This is what I posted on the ATFA facebook page. No big surprise its populated by many of the managers who are respnsible for ATFs current feckless state. Needless to say they support Brandon. Thats ALL I needed to hear. Brandon has failed on every front. He reversed himself on his own NEEDED changes due to political and Chief Counsel pressure. He has failed miserably. When the Attorney General recently held a press conference to advise Brandon would NOT be nominated, she said "Gaurdian". Suffice to say its obvious whos pulling his puppet strings. Crenshaw, Gleysteen, Martin, Gerido, Richardson, Torres etc etc etc. THIS is Brandons ATF. He had a chance to be a leader or a self promoting Bureaucrat. He chose the latter.

 

Here is my earlier post. The above post was reposted by me from Desertrat.

 

What about dumping all the 1811s in non enforcement positions back into the field. When I left less than 2 yrs ago there was OVER 25% of our agents in HQ or in the field NOT working cases. 2 ASACs in every field division where there was one. Point of fact, SFFD HAS 30 less agents than when we had 1 ASAC. Focused use of resources and mission focus instead or mass personal advancement will not only increase ATF productivity but save taxpayer dollars. In other words, less cherrywood furniture and more cases.


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 01:03 PM

Posted Yesterday, 04:48 PM

I remember one case which to this day which makes me laugh thinking about ATF number scams played by some RACs and Agents.  Having to be part of a cover team and listening to the wire was like listening to Saturday Night Live.   It started out as couple of SA's finding some down and out tweakers in a run down trailer park.  They let it be known that they had money and were looking to buy some meth.  The tweakers said sure we can help make that happen and began selling them very small quantities of overpriced meth which they cut the crap out. 

 

Needing to put some numbers on the table for case productivity, the two agents asked them if they knew anyone interested in selling guns.  When asked what kind of guns the Agents wanted, the response was "like sawed off shotguns or machine guns".  One tweaker said "I know a guy with a shotgun" and the second one said "I have a hack saw".  A few minutes later there was shotgun, hack saw and a custom cut down operation going on to make the shotgun short enough to be illegal (at the Agents directions).  Again, the Agents paid crazy high prices for a piece of crap cut up shotgun to encourage future greedy bad behavior.  

 

A few days later there was another meth buy and the Agents now turned the conversation to "do you know anyone who could sell us pipe bombs"?   The bewildered tweakers figured these idiots would pay well for anything.  Once they asked the Agents to explain what a pipe bomb was and how to make it, the tweakers said, sure....come back tomorrow.  The next day there was a buy made of a hodge podge of PVC and metal pipes filled with gun powder.  Again, the Agents paid crazy high prices and were told they can have as many as they wanted.  

 

When the "bombs" were cracked open with a water bolt, they contained mostly underwear, socks and miscellaneous laundry as space filler.  The idiots figured they could stretch their gun powder  budgets and maximize profit by using small amounts of power and more laundry.  

 

In the end, the RAC spun the case as a 924© drug conspiracy using Title II firearms and explosives (short shotgun and pipe bombs).  Big search warrant and press conference on the "bomb making ring" and even some BS about connections to drug cartels.  I even think there were a bunch of awards given!!  You just can't make this shit up!

 

So, the moral of the story and others like Fast and Furious, if you need some numbers to justify something, just go out and create your own criminals and crimes. Hold a press conference and convince everyone how you are making the community safer.

 


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Posted 09 December 2015 - 10:09 AM

I asked him to resolve an issue for me, and all I got was an unsigned response from an "Assistant Director" which didn't even address the problem at hand.  And these people are supposed to be investigators?



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Posted 09 December 2015 - 08:02 AM

I used to think Tom Brandon would do Right by ATF. I was wrong. After he left the ATF National Academy, he forgot who he was. I don't even consider him a fellow Marine. Tom sold his soul to the devil.

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 11:24 AM

http://www.kcra.com/...-fired/36542214

 

 

Good thing these Agents possessed the Warrior mentality.


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Posted 16 November 2015 - 03:20 PM

What actually did he say in his missive?

 

Is he saying ATF agents are first responders like police and fire?  Or community service officers or social workers?



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Posted 12 November 2015 - 11:56 AM

Warrior vs. Gaurdian

 

In recent communication from Bureau HQ, DD Brandon appears to redirect the mindset of our field Agents. Insisting that our mission statement for over 40 years has changed????????

 

Apparently Mr. Brandon has either forgotten where he came from, or is merely adopting the pacifist mentality of our current administration, (perhaps in hopes of garnering favor and being reconsidered for the Directorship). Either way, it is a dangerous message to impart to our Agents. First and foremost, we are not first responders and do not as a practice respond to calls for SERVICE.

Secondly, our mission has ALWAYS been to engage violent criminals, in their face and real time. Many of our agents have given the ultimate sacrifice in doing so. Search and arrest warrants are inherently dangerous and pose a day to day threat of violence. Undercover operations are some of the most dangerous tactics we engage in. WITHOUT a strong warrior mentality, our Agents have already lost in lethal encounters.

Does the DD suggest that our military cannot be compassionate warriors? That our Police nation wide must patrol our streets with a pacifist mentality?

 

I strongly suggest Mr. Brandon rethink his Bureacratic position and get back to being an Agent first and foremost, before his position gets new, young Agents hurt. REMEMBER Mr. Brandon, ALL Marines are basic riflemen. Well, ALL Law Enforcement stand between violence and peace.


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 02:05 PM

ATF  Seattle Division ASAC Salinas Yunez in a press conference after the Oregon shooting said ATF found a "flank" jacket.  Really?

 

http://video.foxnews...1#sp=show-clips



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Posted 22 September 2015 - 10:26 AM

Word is, Brandon was advised this week he AINT the guy. He will not be nominated as a permenant Director. Sometimes they get it right.


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Posted 20 September 2015 - 01:40 PM

I read the press release from Senator Grassley's office. These examples are exactly what my wife went through. Once she challenged her management on their behavior they were relentless. They didn't stop until they got her fired. One week after the beginning of her EEO investigation and one week before her probation ended. We finally recieved the report from the investigator. A huge thanks to the ATF employees that had the courage to tell the truth. I truly understand the possible consequences of having integrity in the ATF.

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 09:20 AM

I just saw on TV what can't be unseen -- Matt Horace [or as they spelled it, Horrace] on the local Sunday news talk show, discussing security for Pope Francis' visit to the Philadelphia area.

Did anybody at the station actually look into his bonafides?  One of the last people I'm going to listen to about intelligence gathering, threat/risk assessment, crowd control, is someone who handled "community outreach" like he did.  Wink Wink.



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Posted 17 September 2015 - 04:40 PM

I became disabled in 2012 when I received the 3rd line of duty injury to my spine [thanks to my boss who ordered me to participate in CAT training despite my previous injuries, and the punk agent conducting the CAT course who insisted I perform the techniques at 100% effort], I asked for the same reasonable accommodations as other agents.  I was kicked out of my office, had my creds, badge, firearm and GOV taken away, and given "busy work" until I went out for surgery.

ATF tried to convert me into an 1807-09 investigative analyst; as such, I was forced to retire under OPM disability annuity.  I filed as EEO within 45 days of my retirement.  The EEO investigator hired by ATF failed to interview my former SAC, the OCC lawyer who ordered the sanctions against me [despite the fact that she had a conflict of interest as ATF's assigned lawyer in a previous EEO complaint], the punk WonderBoy acting ASAC who interfered with my WC claim; the "investigator" never addressed my allegations in which I NAMED agents with debilitating injuries who were accommodated and kept on the job as agents.

I would hope that Senator Grassley would address my concerns, and the concerns of dozens of other ATF employees, with Acting Director Brandon.  However, I suspect Brandon is a place holder until 2017.  Maybe the next Administration will put grow ups in charge of this agency.



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Posted 17 September 2015 - 12:58 PM

What say you Mr. Acting Director. I heard about this over 5 years ago. And you havent been able to deal with it?  Bush league. Thats what you get for letting Chief Counsels Office run a law enforcement agency. You should be ashamed but we all know YOU ARE NOT.

 

 

 

For Immediate Release

Wednesday, September 16, 2015

 

ATF Whistleblowers Allege Sexual Harassment, Discrimination, Intimidation by Managers

 

WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley is asking about the handling of multiple claims of sexual harassment, bullying, gender discrimination and witness intimidation by senior Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) managers dating back to 2012, including alleged attempts to prevent independent oversight by the Inspector General.  The allegations from eight whistleblowers include threats, unwanted sexual advances, graphic sexual comments and attempts to retaliate against employees who disclosed the inappropriate behavior.

 

One whistleblower reported that in the fall of 2012, a then-Special Operations Division Deputy Chief yelled at her in front of subordinates and used her battle with cancer as justification for transferring her job duties to male counterparts.  This may be a violation of the Rehabilitation Act, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in federal employment.  She reported the behavior to his superior, the Special Operations Division Chief at the time, which was followed by increased retaliation, including threats to launch an internal personnel investigation against the whistleblower.

 

Other whistleblowers alleged that the same Special Operations Division deputy chief attempted to photograph several female employees despite their objections, and that he squeezed one woman’s thigh at a work related dinner event.  They also claim that he used derogatory and offensive language to refer to women in the workplace. One whistleblower alleged that she was placed on administrative leave after she was called as a witness to testify in an Internal Affairs investigation of harassment claims.

 

Many of the whistleblowers reported their claims to the Internal Affairs Division, which they say has been largely unhelpful. They allege that such disclosures are frequently suppressed for years, preventing further investigations by the Office of Inspector General. They also claim that ATF Acting Director Thomas Brandon and then-Director, B. Todd Jones were aware of the allegations of sexual harassment, yet the alleged harasser has since been promoted.

 

In a letter to Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, Grassley is seeking information on the procedures for reporting and responding to claims of harassment, whether they were followed, and how harassers are disciplined.  Grassley also requested statistical information, broken down by gender, on agency responses to such allegations.

 

Text of Grassley’s letter follows:

 

September 14, 2015

 

VIA ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION

The Honorable Loretta E. Lynch                                       The Honorable Michael Horowitz

Attorney General                                                                Inspector General

United States Department of Justice                                  United States Department of Justice

Washington, D.C. 20530-0001                                          Washington, D.C. 20530-0001

 

Dear Attorney General Lynch and Inspector General Horowitz:

           

I write with concern regarding multiple allegations of sexual harassment, bullying, gender discrimination, and witness intimidation within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF).  Reports of these practices have been widespread, with many originating from inside the Special Operations Division (SOD) and dating back to 2012.  Special Agent SherryAnn Quindley—a 25 year ATF veteran—along with 7 other whistleblowers indicate that they have experienced some form of the above harassment and sought help from the Internal Affairs Division (ATF IAD), largely to no avail.  According to these whistleblowers, it is not uncommon for allegations to be suppressed for several years, preventing the Office of the Inspector General (DOJ OIG) from properly determining whether to conduct further investigations.

 

Quindley and the other whistleblowers allege a wide variety of abuses, and expressed concern for dozens of other female agents who are too fearful of possible retaliation to come forward.[1]

 

Quindley’s Claims

 

Quindley says she began to experience harassment and bullying by then-SOD Deputy Chief Billy Wright in the fall of 2012.  According to Quindley, Chief Wright yelled at her in front of subordinates, threatened to “break her,” and eliminated her from Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) Program meetings and emails to the OCDETF Regional Coordinators.  Chief Wright also threatened to put Quindley on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) when he claimed a hospital stay prevented her from submitting travel documentation.  Additionally, Chief Wright allegedly used Quindley’s battle with cancer as an excuse to marginalize her and to transfer her job duties to male counterparts.  This behavior appears to violate the Rehabilitation Act’s prohibition against discrimination based on a perception of a disability, and is highly inappropriate.[2]  

 

In February of 2013, Quindley reported the harassment to Chief Wright’s superior, then-SOD Chief Charlie Smith.[3]  Quindley also sought assistance from the Ombudsman’s Office, but she was informed that without additional complaints from other women, the office could not help her.  The representative further suggested that, if she was experiencing problems, she should find another job. 

 

In March of 2013, Quindley was called into a meeting with Chiefs Wright and Smith in which they threatened an internal investigation by the Office of Professional Responsibility and Security Operations (OPRSO).  After the meeting, they escorted her out of the building without any of her personal belongings. By April, Quindley had reported the conduct to the EEO, which she says only seemed to accelerate the harassment.  For example, Wright attempted to suspend Quindley for two days after hearing of her complaint—a suspension that was ultimately lifted when deemed inappropriate by new management.

 

Seven days after filing the EEO, Quindley was informed that ATF was reorganizing SOD and OCDETF which substantially reduced her duties and responsibilities. By August of 2014, almost a year later, EEO completed an investigation.  Quindley immediately requested the Final Agency Decision from DOJ’s Complaint Adjudication Office, which is still pending.  On January 21, 2015, Quindley wrote to Director Brandon who was allegedly aware of the abuses, and asked him to support an investigation of sexual harassment, discrimination, and retaliation related to her and many other women in ATF. Additionally, then-Director B. Todd Jones was allegedly aware of the sexual harassment during his tenure, and failed to properly investigate the claims.

 

In May of 2015, Quindley filed a complaint with the DOJ OIG, urging it to investigate the many harassment claims filed by female agents within ATF, including her own.  In the IG’s response, Deputy Assistant Inspector General Eric Johnson acknowledged that in July 2013, OIG received Ms. Quindley’s allegations from IAD, determined the “matter was more appropriate for investigation by IAD,” and referred the matter back to IAD immediately.  OIG claimed that as of June 2015, the investigation “remains ongoing,” and therefore will not take action at this time.

 

Additional Whistleblowers’ Claims

 

Beginning in August of 2013, IAD interviewed many other women with sexual harassment claims originating in SOD, but most cases never made it past a preliminary investigation.  These whistleblowers reported a variety of abuses to the Committee. For example, one whistleblower reported that Chief Wright made unwelcomed sexual advances at a work-related dinner, including squeezing her thigh under the table intimating that he would “take care of her marital issues.”  He also allegedly attempted to photograph her and several female agents with his cell phone, despite their protestations.  Another whistleblower reported that Chief Wright continually belittled her, spoke for her at meetings, used derogatory and offensive language to refer to women, and graphically described oral sex to her.  Yet another whistleblower reported that Chief Wright made graphic and offensive comments in her presence and undermined her in her job. 

 

Additionally, one whistleblower alleges witness intimidation.  She says she was called by IA to testify as a witness in Quindley’s harassment claim, and was placed on administrative leave in an effort to intimidate her from testifying.  She was reinstated by upper management shortly afterward.

 

It has also come to my attention that several agents informed their supervisors of the harassment, and filed EEO complaints.  They said that while their claims would often make it to the Chief Counsel’s Office, their complaints were often altered and never elevated to the OIG.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

 

According to an ATF Order (ATF O 2130.3), ATF has a zero tolerance policy for harassment in the workplace, and has procedures in place for reporting and responding to workplace harassment. But in the case of Quindley and the additional whistleblowers, it appears that these procedures may have not been followed, and the harassers may have not been reprimanded.  In fact, the alleged harassers have reportedly been promoted.

 

Accordingly, please answer the following questions no later than September 28, 2015, numbering your responses according to their corresponding questions:

 

  1. Attorney General Lynch:
    1. Are Billy Wright and Charlie Smith still employed with ATF? If so, what are their current titles?
    2. If they are still employed with ATF, have they been promoted since FY 2012?
    3. How many harassment complaints have been filed against Billy Wright and Charlie Smith from FY 2011- FY 2015?
    4. Have any of the harassment complaints been investigated past a preliminary stage by IAD? Please provide the number of complaints investigated from FY 2012-2015 and the outcomes of the investigations.
    5. What procedures are in place for reporting and responding to workplace harassment per ATF O 2130.3? Please provide copies of the procedures.
    6. Are employees with complaints provided the option of filing with the OIG as an alternative to IAD?
    7. What is the Office of the Chief Counsel’s role in investigating harassment complaints?
    8. Have Billy Wright, Charlie Smith, or others informed of the harassment been disciplined? If so, how? Please provide all documentation detailing the discipline.
    9. What is the current status of Quindley’s case?
    10. What is the average punishment per violation of a male 1811 versus a female 1811? Please explain.
    11. What is the percentage of female 1811s versus male 1811s who are investigated pursuant to an anonymous allegation?
    12. How many times has the ATF punished a first line supervisor for failing to report sexual harassment? Please provide all relevant documentation.
    13. Name current SESs that have sustained sexual harassment findings and maintained their SES status? Please provide all relevant documentation.
    14. What is the average time it takes to resolve a sexual harassment or gender discrimination claim after a complaint is filed with EEO?
    15. How many times has a filing of an EEO claim resulted in an OPRSO formal investigation of the alleged perpetrator?
    16. How many times has a filing of an EEO claim resulted in an OPRSO formal investigation of the claimant?
    17. Please provide documentation punishment delivered to women 1811s versus male 1811s for the same offense during the same time frame.

 

  1. Inspector General Horowitz:
    1. In March of 2015, DOJ OIG reported on the Handling of Sexual Harassment and Misconduct Allegations by the Department’s Law Enforcement Components. [4] Is it possible many of the sexual harassment claims originating from ATF and described above weren’t included in the report because they were never elevated past a preliminary investigation or not shared with the OIG for some other reason? Please explain.
    2. Please investigate all sexual harassment, bullying, witness intimidation, and gender discrimination allegations referenced above. 
    3. Please contact my staff to arrange an interview with SherryAnn Quindley.

 

Thank you for your attention to this important matter.  If you have any questions, please contact Katherine Nikas of my Committee staff at (202) 224-5225.  Thank you. 


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 09:17 AM

Thanx.

http://federalsoup.c...s=FD_090915&m=1

Well said Jamie3. Way to go and keep on fighting Jay, so that their unethical practices be revealed.



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Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:12 PM

http://www.azcentral...ngels/71731264/

 

Uh OH. Looks like ATF and DOJ is about to get busted.


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Posted 05 September 2015 - 01:13 PM

Well said Jamie3.  Way to go and keep on fighting Jay, so that their unethical practices be revealed.



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Posted 05 September 2015 - 05:04 AM

Its time for the media to help expose to the American people, not only the atrocities within ATF and DOJ, but the failures within the judicial system and Congress in which allows ATF and DOJ to intimidate witnesses.

If a judge can take the position of it not being an issue with DOJ and ATF intimidating witnesses, what position are other judges taking when witness tampering or intimidation is evident?

Does Congress and judges not understand that witness intimidation not only tampers with due process, it also interferes with the integrity of having an adequate investigation in which contributes to due process?

If a Criminal case of a Civilian can be botched due to witness tampering or investigation, why won't the same standard apply for employees?

Any media who is unafraid of this Administration should begin interviewing employees who have experienced backlash.
What they will find is,

Hardly anyone within workplaces will go on record for employees out of fear of retaliation or harassment.

Workplace harassment or violence has occurred at some point to all employees who go against the agency.

Attorneys and HR having direct involvement with supervisors and managers, to teach them how to low key retaliate against and harass employees, so it's not evident or considered in a court of law.

Attorneys having unethical communication with judges. Recall why the Deputy Attorney General sent out a memorandum threatening employees on talking negatively about judges?
Think about it, why would he do that if judges are independent?

A judicial system designed to side with the government and if they do not, they will be removed or intimidated.

The case of Jay Dobyns, Vince Cefalu, along with countless others, is a clear injustice, why?
Because our judicial system and Congress are allowing ATF and DOJ move the goal posts.

All of the above issues should outrage ALL Americans, especially Americans who value our Constitution. We ALL need to step up and stand together because, an injustice to one is an injustice to ALL.

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 11:06 AM

I predict that this is FAR from over. The facts are now going to expose, Brandon, Turk, Gleysteen and others to renewed investigation. For DOJ and the Special Matter to scoff at PROVIN illegal and unethical practices based on their opinion it didnt technically change the outcome. News flash folks, THAT IS NOT the standard. Brandon and ALL those involved will definitely answer to a higher power. EVEN IF, they think there is no higher power.  To Be Continued.Rumor has it they have all retained private CRIMINAL defense counsel. When team Dobyns deposes these folks, it aint gonna be pretty. Gleysteen didnt, (and based on his actual experience as a agent, COULDNT write his own statement. Counsel did it for him.


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 08:54 AM

How is it that the media like Paul Giblin, David Codrea and Katie Pavlich can understand this and Congress can't? 

 

The aides for Chuck Grassley, Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz have been briefed on this for years now and yet the legislators sit on the sidelines like benchwarmers. They hold press conferences and brag to the public about their whistleblower protection laws and how much they care but when given a prime opportunity to get in the game and play they are content to just watch. 

 

DOJ you're gettin' your's but ATF's leadership is guilty too.  They know the full story.  Brandon, Turk, Gleysteen are the equivalent of a back up quarterbacks standing next to the head coach (DOJ) wearing a baseball cap and holding a clipboard not doing or saying a thing; just along for the ride and collecting a paycheck.  They agreed to this.  They supported it!  "Its out of my hands."  "Be patient."  "DOJ is running this now."  Pathetic and cowardly leadership at its finest.  You three are dirty and I ain't done with you by a damn longshot. You may be escaping responsibility and accountability for now but there is no way that's going to last.  Heaven forbid Congress interview me.

 

You guys better find a better way to break me than what you've done so far because this is full on war.  And it better be more than trying to frame me for an arson, someone willing to kill his family by fire, hiding and covering up the truth and trying to turn the tables on anyone who's called you out or supported me, sue me, harass my friends and attorney, crush my finances - been there done that.  I'm waiting for your next slander and libel attack.  You know where to find me 'cause I ain't going nowhere.

 

You guys are bullshit as leaders and all the awards and military medals can't hide that anymore.

 

"The first casualty of war is the truth." - Hiram Johnson, U.S. Senator - 1918

 

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:52 PM

 

The TV show NCIS is on and it is bashing ATF's running of the Fast and Furious.  Classic.  Is this a rerun or was it another show that bashed F and F?



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:05 PM

http://www.thetrutha...on-dobyns-case/
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Posted 15 August 2015 - 06:28 AM

There was a time when ATF stood for something. Now ATF and DoJ by proxy will stand for anything. It's beyond shameful. My sincere appreciation to all who have tried to make a difference. Management is surely cowed, yet some of the rank and file continue to stand tall.  



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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:58 AM

http://www.azcentral...nough/31690323/

This case is mired in Gov. Corruption. The picture im attaching is of the Newly appointed Judge with a high ranking DOJ attorney who was directly implicated in Judge Allerga belief that the court was defrauded and evidence withheld. So this Judge TAKES the case away from Allerga when he insists that Dobyns has a right to depose DOJ Attys. There is ample evidence that DOJ obstructed justice. Pray for my brother. Corruption prevails.

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 05:48 AM

I heard that SA Chris Trainor retired as a result of all of this. if this is true, what a shame.  I am proud to say ATF does or did have some agents with the integrity and courage that was displayed by Trainor, Dobyns, Dodson, Cefalu, and few others.  The ATF legacy is not a good one in general.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:52 PM

Jay needs to tap into these Presidential nominees and make them put their money where their mouth is, take his case under their wing and demand justice.

That's only if their not all in this together.

Where is our Congress on this issue?
Surely Senator Grassley shouldn't be the only individual speaking up on this.


http://blog.jaydobynsgroup.com/?p=887


This is Tom Brandons legacy.
He has proof of corruption within the agencys leadership and his beating Jay is more important than his personal integrity and the integrity of the agency. Bet this aint over yet.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 02:57 PM

http://blog.jaydobynsgroup.com/?p=887


This is Tom Brandons legacy.
He has proof of corruption within the agencys leadership and his beating Jay is more important than his personal integrity and the integrity of the agency. Bet this aint over yet.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:38 PM

Arizona Daily Star, January 22, 2015, Reporter Tim Steller:

 

 

"For people like me, who have sympathized with Dobyns but tried to reserve judgment about his case, the documents push us further into the retired agent’s camp. You can’t read the few filings that have been unsealed in the case without wondering why the Justice Department is going to such extremes and spending so much on what is, at base, a relatively minor contractual dispute that could have ended years ago."

 

 

http://tucson.com/news/local/column/steller-unsealed-dobyns-files-look-bad-for-doj/article_c880c43b-6f55-5201-b0b8-0ab6dd6cc964.html



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:29 PM

The closing of the Special Master's inquiry into allegations of fraud upon the court committed by ATF and DOJ is nearing a close.  For the past six months my attorney and I have served in essence as special prosecutors on the courts behalf seeking information and investigation.  For the most part I have removed myself from public and private comment and social media.  There is really nothing much left for me to say.

 

Although my lawsuit will likely continue for several more years through DOJ's appeal of the courts rullings on this matter, this is a reminder to those that follow here what I have been up against starting in 2004, 11 years.  Seeking justice and accountability against ATF and DOJ is not for the weak of heart or knees and my recommendation to many has been, "let it go", "it is not worth the heartache and gut punches you will take when no one of authority has your back."  If you think Congress or the whistleblower laws or a 'champion in management' will protect you then the joke is on you, and me.  I am much too far down the road to ever turn back or quit.

 

Brandon, could have, and should have, inserted his influence and earned the praise he receives from his supporters.  He intentionally did not.  In fact he joined in the attack defending and protecting the bad conduct.

 

Paste this link into your browser for the hard and honest truth:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd_1N26lExs&feature=youtu.be

 

And from closing arguments in the trial phase:

 

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 05:57 AM

Congress really needs to revisit this:
http://www.pogo.org/...-standards.html

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 03:23 PM

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Think the fix is in at DOJ? The HOLDER supported, Obama appointed chief judge takes the case away from the trial Judge in the interest of Justice? Laughable
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Posted 24 July 2015 - 01:54 PM

It's probably more than just tens of thousands of dollars since this time the I.O.I.'s also have to shred theirs and order new ones.




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Posted 24 July 2015 - 10:37 AM

Ok so see if I got this right. Not only did we piss away $600,000 on some hair brained Drone program. But now, we are changing the ATF uniforms aka BDUs from one color to another, after we just did that a year or so ago. Ok, well at least we are donating the BRAND NEW expensive old color BDUs to some needy Police Dept. right?

 

NOPE. Every field division has been ordered to destroy Tens of Thousands of dollars worth of perfectly serviceable BDUs.

 

Does ANYONE feel the need to report this to the OIG and or OSC. Waste, fraud and abuse? Wonder if the same company is now supplying our NEW BDUs. Who is driving this train?


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Posted 20 July 2015 - 12:40 PM

She was removed.  For good?  Who knows with this outfit?  ATF bosses are sent to purgatory for a short time, then get redeemed.

 

Denton was fired, I've been told.

 

Calling these people tyrants is insulting to tyrants.



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Posted 19 July 2015 - 08:14 PM

Was Donna Read actually removed from the Walnut Creek Lab for good and what is the real reason?

I heard she is a tyrant and employees are terrified of her.

Was Donna Read's assistant Courtney Denton fired from the Walnut Creek Lab?


Does anybody know WHY Donna Read has been removed from her post at the Walnut Creek lab? Will Brandon now go back and review ALL the allegations of discrimination and reprisal from Lab employees? I think not



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Posted 18 July 2015 - 11:41 AM

ADFO Michael Gleysteen purjured himself MULTIPLE times, under oath in my case against the Bureau. These transcripts were provided directly to Then Director Jones and DD Brandon. Their response?????????? Promote him. And what of OCDETF Coordinator Dennis Downs? Where is he these days?  They settled for a reason. The biggest legacy of the Brandon era is what they have done to Special Agent (Ret.) Jay Dobyns. They will have to answer to God someday.

 


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#138 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 17 July 2015 - 09:08 AM

Who was the SAC recently proposed for termination and then miraculously reinstated and transferred to a new field division? Brandon clearly intends to smooth over violations by bosses ONLY.
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Posted 17 July 2015 - 05:36 AM

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.  George Orwell

Prayers go out to the families of the fallen Marines.  RIP and Semper Fi



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Posted 15 July 2015 - 11:39 AM

Does anybody know WHY Donna Read has been removed from her post at the Walnut Creek lab? Will Brandon now go back and review ALL the allegations of discrimination and reprisal from Lab employees? I think not


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:30 AM

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.  George Orwell



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Posted 03 July 2015 - 05:51 AM

Put Sweetow's alleged wrong doing aside for a moment, I think anyone who allegedly used his services should also be held accountable. As an "executive," they should have known that it was against DOJ policy to have secondary employment and as an ATF employee they had an obligation to report the alleged wrong doing.  If they did not know there were two potential violations, they have no business sitting in the position they are in.  Also was the OEG form filled out by Sweetow each year to report the alleged income?  Was it reported to the IRS?  If these disclosures were not properly reported, then it looks like a couple of 1001 violations on top of the alleged misuse of a government computer system.  What about all of the other bosses who run a business and don't report it on the above forms?  So did anyone who used his services pay in cash to avoid leaving a paper trail?  These are all basic questions that need to be asked.  Investigations 101.



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Posted 02 July 2015 - 03:00 PM

I think he is on rubber "rubber gun squad".

 

Anyone else think there is an ethics problem about hiring yourself out (for pay) to prepare SES packets and then sit on the panel that selects the packets.....just wondering?  Wonder how many current SES Execs in ATF used his service? 

 

I hope they pull the archives from the computer network and see how far back his accumulation of other employees private information goes.  I guarantee it goes back more than 10 years!! 

 

Will anything happen......OF COURSE NOT!!!  Besides, he knows where all the skeletons are buried. 



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Posted 02 July 2015 - 12:23 PM

NFL Tackling Dummy?



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Posted 30 June 2015 - 01:34 PM

I heard Sweetow allegedly was "perp-walked" out of HQ last Thursday.

 

Maybe there will be a job waiting for him at the NFL.



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Posted 30 June 2015 - 05:50 AM

I guess that the ethics pocket guide, the extra ethics courses on line, and all of the briefings by attorneys were in vain.  Employees will continue to violate policy and the law because the leadership  has failed to hold people accountable.  Do as I say not as I do.



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Posted 30 June 2015 - 05:48 AM

I guess that the ethics pocket guide, the extra ethics courses on line, and all of the briefings by attorneys were in vain.  Employees will continue to violate policy and the law because the leadership  has failed to hold people accountable.  Do as I say not as I do.



#148 VINCENT A CEFALU

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 04:17 PM

From TheHill.com:
ATF official under investigation for possible data breach: reporthttp://thehill.com/p...a-breach-report
It even states his name.





He'll get a pass. All of B randons boys do. Consider the SAC who compromised a wiretap. Guess what? Still a SAC
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#149 Fedupwrkr

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Posted 29 June 2015 - 01:45 PM

From TheHill.com:

ATF official under investigation for possible data breach: report

http://thehill.com/p...a-breach-report

It even states his name.

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 11:43 AM

Not only should the bosses be required to carry these ethics booklets, they should be regularly quizzed on ethics.






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