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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:08 PM

I hate to break the news to everyone but this always was and always will be the Crenshaw we know. If he was a likeable or fair guy his mumbling and bumbling could almost be loveable but he's a nasty, vindicitive, above the law manager who's getting called out. The man you see on that video was selected as the ATF ASAC in Chicago, the SAC in Seattle, our AD for OPSPRO and again the SAC in Seattle. He's a goof. That's never been a secret. I remember Larry Ford and Crenshaw in their $5000 empty suits having their shoes shined in the public lobby of our office and looking down at all the rest of us with a "I got mine" attitude. He went back to Seattle to continue his relationship with his secretary. Is there anyone who doesn't know that? He was the individual that Melson, Carter and Hoover selected to be the one person to stand for integrity at ATF. What a mistake. In addition, he was in charge at IA when they conspired to let McLemore off the hook. Our management is the laughing stock of the federal government.

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 05:42 PM

This is the reason that ATF ends up being embarrassed because ATF does not know the difference between law abiding citizens and criminal intent. This is clearly a technical violation that ATF could work with the FFL to correct. While these firearms could be converted into the real thing, so can a heap of metal be converted into a firearm. Crenshaw tried to play off the magazine faux pas but you can still tell. I am sure the NRA is having a field day with this. :unsure: :blink:
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Posted 05 March 2010 - 08:39 AM

Yes embarrassing. Yes Kelvin Crenshaw

This is awful. I am becoming embarrassed to tell anyone I ever worked for ATF.

This dope is a SAC!!! What have we come to when a FD head goes on the news with a fiasco like this and then tries to justify it. Just say "The agency made a mistake". Also learn which way a magazine is inserted before you are taped on a news clip! How did this guy ever get to where he got? Actually, I know the answer to that because I was around in the 1990s.

Krenshaw should be put into some dark corner where he cannot embarrass the organization any more.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:49 PM

Yes embarrassing. Yes Kelvin Crenshaw should have voided his ability to represent ATF EVER for his abuses while in HQ recently and the allegations of his romantic adventures at tax payer expense. Yes he should have been demoted downward well past SAC in Wash. State "again" for covering for Vanessaq Mclemore and or whatever else he covered up.HOWEVER, those toys dont need to be out in the world ever. No they cant be readily converted as (probably Elener Loos' shop suggested this was a good idea). No it is not an effecient use of ATF resources and manpower pursuing toys. No it has not positively impacted reducing violent crime. And no Mr. Crenshaw should not be allowed to speak on behalf of our Bureau. Finally, NO we should not withold formal ATF determinations and findings from the public and legitimate business people. It gives the appearance we are hiding something. Guess what Mr. Crenshaw, there ARE hundreds if not thousands of real guns out there. Yes they should have been approached. My thinking is: maybe by the Child protective services or the consumer protection agencys. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU THINK THEY WERE BEING TAKEN INTO MEXICO FOR THE DRUG CARTELS.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:30 PM

Is this what we have come to??? You can't tell me we don't have bigger fish to fry than this.




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