Ya gotta love it!
It wasn't enough to be called “Troll”, “stupid”, “evil”, and the “defendant”, but now I'm a "bully", "lonely" and "needing attention", too!
Ya gotta love it!
"Who would have known about a case out there with SA Ortiz?" Answer: Anybody who reads it. duh!
Does anyone really think they aren't accountable for what they do? In this day of massive amounts of information on the internet?
"What does posting some part of a testimony have to do with cleaning up ATF?"
OK, you asked: From the CleanUpATF.org home page:
"Managers, Counsel, Internal Affairs and staff of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives (BATFE or "ATF") have repeatedly given false testimony, concealed substantial waste, fraud and abuse, abused their lawful authority, and waged systematic campaigns of reprisal against their own employees that dare to speak out."
Does anyone think that "Managers, Counsel, Internal Affairs and staff" suddenly appear by magic? I think not. By and large, they come up through the ranks. And if they "give false testimony, conceal waste, fraud and abuse, abuse their lawful authority and wages systematic campaigns of reprisal" as managers, then they also did that as ordinary employees on their way up - and got promoted.
If ATF is going to be cleaned up, then such behavior should be identified and cleaned up throughout the ranks. As it applies to retired managers, it also applies to other retired employees. How many managers responsible for "Fast and Furious" have been allowed to retire? Does retirement give them a pass? Let's hope not.
If ATF is going to be cleaned up, then air the linen and CLEAN IT UP!
More food for thought:
Does anyone really think Criminal Defense Attorneys won't search rulings for case law and other useful legal information?
Any ATF employee giving false testimony or misrepresenting facts or the law in a criminal case can expect a sharp Criminal Defense Attorney to find it – and use it – both in future criminal cases, and in appeals of older cases.