Special Agent NEEDS OUR HELP
#1 Guest_Jumper_*
Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:40 PM
#2
Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:46 AM
Try reading my post again, FNG. I am NOT COMPARING Vanessa McLemore to Will Clark. I am comparing the treatment afforded Vanessa McLemore as compared to Will Clark. Maybe you don't know all the efforts made by ATF senior management to pave the way for her leaving without a criminal information filed against her. Maybe you did not hear that management may have picked up the phone and called the U.S. Attorney's office on her behalf. I don't think that effort was made for Will Clark. Am I mistaken or was there NO ONE from senior management at the rally for Will Clark. That's the comparison. So try reading a little slower and you may get it. As far Wikileaks goes, there a thousands of documents out in the field that could help agents with their cases. How do you recommend we organize those documents and get them to agents who need them. You are the typical agent who sits and thinks that "it won't happen to me". I just have to keep popping out the cases and they'll leave me alone. Well, there are plenty of agents that could tell you different. Some have survived the attack from ATF and some are not so lucky. so when it happens to you, find the documents on your own because they'll never give them to you in discovery.
And with your attitude about the site, stay off of it then.
Thanks for clarifying your post for us. When I read it I also thought you were comparing McLemore to Clark. No harm no foul.
From a taxpayer's perspective comparing Mclemore and Clark would be interesting. How many search/ arrest warrants op plans has McLemore written in her career? How many times has she held the ram and busted down the door or have been first on entry to a multi-convicted felon gang banger's house? How many thousands of dollars were wasted by McLemore's abusive treatment of agents and all of the resulting EEO complaints against her? She made it no secret that she hated white male agents. Again just this is seen in all of the EEO complaints against her. File FOIA request and you will get the supporting docs. How much hard working agents' time was wasted trying to survive against her onslaught when they would rather be on the street risking their lives for the American public, executing controlled purchases of dope and guns, arrests, search warrants against the worst of the worst criminals in Houston. There was a story that she allegedly lent her service firearm out to a friend and she later put her service weapon in a dish washer to "clean it" and subsequently destroyed it. Is this true? Anyway in true ATF fashion she was rewarded for her abusive treatment of agents and was promoted.
And management wonders why the morale is so low?
Best wishes to brave Agent Clark and his family. As noted in the previous posts the lack of ATF management at his rallies is duly noted by agents in ATF. I guess it was to difficult to walk across the street. A few waited until it was certain that he would not be prosecuted and came out to support him. What a joke. Again I give credit to Melson for coming out in his support. I wish it was a bit earlier in the process but it appeared that he really did support him and that means a lot to the agents. But we all know that he will be gone and the people who did not support Clark will back in control of the sinking and rudderless ship that is called ATF.
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Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:40 AM
#4
Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:40 AM
#5
Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:24 PM
Just to be clear. Just as your opinion is welcomed, so are others. Remember, individual posters don't speak for every body and opinions can be interpreted the way you see fit. As for credibilty, here are the hard cold FACTS. They DO care what we say here as American citizens and agents dedicated to cleaning this place up. How can I say this with certainty? 1000 posts in just over a year. Over 120000 views. Direct evidence that Mr. Melson and others ARE rev iewing the content, (by his own admission) as they should be. FYI, congressional staffers, the media, the OIG and the OSC DO regularly visit this site, THAT'S A FACT. Now the singular point that our words need to be measured, I think we all agree with. As for the credibility factor, we are aware of numerouis employee disputes that have been resolved and addressed as a direct result of the fields participation. It may be true that certain elements of the field are apathetic because the ethical breakdown hasn't touched them personally. But watch how quick they will and have come running to CUATF when Chait, and Loos and crew start their abuses against them. CUATF is a regular topic of discussion at executive staff meetings and the managers would love to shut down the 1st amendment rights of the field agents. Until a serious and concerted effort to change the way we do business AND begin holding even ONE abusive self serving boss accountable, this site will continue to thrive. We hope you all will continue to fight to get our Bureau back.
I am not sure all opinions are welcomed here. The "Who the hell is S/A Futrell" postings have been deleted by the CUATF staff. I don't know why they were deleted. This agent requested to be removed from Will Clark email list and was called out for it by Charlie Fuller and others on CUATF. This agent then is shamed into writing a support email for Will, only to recall it 20 times. Again, that was called out in postings here. But for some reason, all those Futrell postings have been deleted. I am sure Futrell had a momentary laps in judgment asking to be removed and he probably isn't a bad guy but this site and postings brought attention to the situation.
CUATF calls out and bashes Melson, Hoover, Chait,Loos, SACs & ASACS and everyone else- rightfully so but become hypocrites and remove postings about Futrell. Is this only clean up ATF management? You could be on the cutting edge CUATF if you allow the post about certain people before they become bosses and executives.
No one has an answer about why Futrell postings were deleted
There was nothing derogatory or untrue in postings. If you gonna run this site, then be fair and not selective as to who you call out. Other wise, you loose credibility here.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:51 PM
#7 Guest_madea_*
Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:12 PM
Try reading my post again, FNG. I am NOT COMPARING Vanessa McLemore to Will Clark. I am comparing the treatment afforded Vanessa McLemore as compared to Will Clark. Maybe you don't know all the efforts made by ATF senior management to pave the way for her leaving without a criminal information filed against her. Maybe you did not hear that management may have picked up the phone and called the U.S. Attorney's office on her behalf. I don't think that effort was made for Will Clark. Am I mistaken or was there NO ONE from senior management at the rally for Will Clark. That's the comparison. So try reading a little slower and you may get it. As far Wikileaks goes, there a thousands of documents out in the field that could help agents with their cases. How do you recommend we organize those documents and get them to agents who need them. You are the typical agent who sits and thinks that "it won't happen to me". I just have to keep popping out the cases and they'll leave me alone. Well, there are plenty of agents that could tell you different. Some have survived the attack from ATF and some are not so lucky. so when it happens to you, find the documents on your own because they'll never give them to you in discovery.Comparing Will Clark to Vanessa McLemore??????????? Then in a previous thread supporting the likes of Wikileaks???????????
You've got to be kidding me.
This site may be a source for whats going on around the country and pointing out the ineptitude and vindictiveness of some Senior Management which I suspect the vast majority of Agents agree with, but with just the same folks posting time after time and posts like those above, the site is loosing credibility with the field. I know guys that don't even bother with this site anymore.
You can call out Melson, Chait, Hoover, Loos, Holder, etc. and call for help from Congressmen and the President on here all you want but I suspect in the big picture..........They Don't Care about this site. They've got a bigger objective and thats their Political Careers or next job upon Retirement.
As for Will. That is very, very good news and I wish there was some way of giving him those two years of his life back. Who would of thought that working in the VI would be like working in a Banana Republic. God bless him.
And with your attitude about the site, stay off of it then.
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 10:41 AM
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:57 AM
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Posted 29 October 2010 - 07:45 AM
#11 Guest_madea_*
Posted 29 October 2010 - 05:03 AM
#12
Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:50 PM
#13
Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:07 PM
Lone Wolf
#14
Posted 28 October 2010 - 11:41 AM
All charges against SA Will Clark have been dismissed. Thanks to so many for your support and Prayers. Thanks to God for answering them. This shows what Agents who pull together can do. Congrats Will.
Heartiest congratulations, Will!
It's been two years of hell and now it's over. Those people responsible for this - if they only knew you, this would never have happened.
Couldn't be happier for this great news.
#15
Posted 28 October 2010 - 11:25 AM
#16 Guest_CUATF Webmaster_*
Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:11 AM
#17 Guest_madea_*
Posted 26 October 2010 - 04:12 AM
I think that Melson brings with him the attitude of this Department of Injustice. Look at the source rather than just the immediate surroundings. Stop giving so much credit to cretins like Hoover and Chait. Remember, neither of these individuals were "aggressive" or "dynamic" law enforcement agents. Do you think either of them ever developed a decent investigation? That's the problem with the current administration. They DO NOT KNOW THE JOB. Yes, they did well at the ASSessment Center and they are real good at kissing ASS but they cannot explain to you how to develop a CI and make ORIGINAL cases. Yes, they know how to drive over to a police department and pick up adopted cases but they can't do an original investigation. Now, do you think Melson has even a hint of a clue what this agency is SUPPOSED TO DO? With respect to Loos, Hoover, Wilfed callmeLarry Ford, Newell, Martin, etc. it's send in the clowns time - like watching the clowns get out of the tiny car at the circus. Oh wait, the clowns are funny. Mr. Melson this situation is not funny because your non-existing leadership is costing Americans serious repercussions.I could not have said it better. Unfortunately, being a good guy is not the earmark of a leader. It helps, but If he can't make the hard decisions and he can't can't see the treachery occuring behind his back via Chait and Hoover, is he truly capable of running the most aggresive and dynamic law enforcement agency in the history of law enforcement? He should have axed Loos, Hoover, Chait, Ford, Newell, Martin, Torres and the others when he realized they were and are undermining him.
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:39 PM
#19
Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:22 PM
#20
Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:31 PM
#21
Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:07 AM
#22
Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:25 AM
#23
Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:39 AM
The Virgin Islands is lawless and has openly stated the U.S. Constitution does not apply. Pass the word via Facebook, Myspace, Twitter or email. People should be discouraged from visiting or otherwise patronizing the V.I. because of the above reasons.
Send email to Governor DeJongh. His email address is: john.dejongh@go.vi.gov. If you don't
mind, send a CC or BCC copy of the email to: willclark@undercover.org,jblackburn@dailynews.vi,
jrobbins@dailynews.vi, michele_Smith@ovp.eop.gov, jennifer_y._Kaplan@who.eop.gov. The first CC or BC e-mailaddress is so we can see how many emails are being sent, the second two addresses are reporter and publisher of Virgin Islands Newspaper, and last two addresses are to the White House and the Vice-Presidents office. Might as well let all these folks know we do not approve of whats happening to Will. Please mention ATF Special Agent Will Clark's unlawful prosecution and maybe a tourism boycott of the Virgin Islands by all law enforcement officers and their families. I also question how the Virgin Islands Flag supersedes the United States Constitution!
PLEASE TAKE THE FEW SECONDS TO EXPRESS YOUR DISPLEASURE AT THE ABOVE EMAIL ADDRESSES. IT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE
Today begins jury selection in the Virgin Islands in Will Clark's case. We wish him & his family the best of luck and the strength to endure.
#24
Posted 17 October 2010 - 06:38 PM
Send email to Governor DeJongh. His email address is: john.dejongh@go.vi.gov. If you don't
mind, send a CC or BCC copy of the email to: willclark@undercover.org,jblackburn@dailynews.vi,
jrobbins@dailynews.vi, michele_Smith@ovp.eop.gov, jennifer_y._Kaplan@who.eop.gov. The first CC or BC e-mailaddress is so we can see how many emails are being sent, the second two addresses are reporter and publisher of Virgin Islands Newspaper, and last two addresses are to the White House and the Vice-Presidents office. Might as well let all these folks know we do not approve of whats happening to Will. Please mention ATF Special Agent Will Clark's unlawful prosecution and maybe a tourism boycott of the Virgin Islands by all law enforcement officers and their families. I also question how the Virgin Islands Flag supersedes the United States Constitution!
PLEASE TAKE THE FEW SECONDS TO EXPRESS YOUR DISPLEASURE AT THE ABOVE EMAIL ADDRESSES. IT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE
#25
Posted 11 October 2010 - 08:22 PM
#26
Posted 09 October 2010 - 11:43 AM
We at CUATF would like to express our pride and appreciation to Sen. Schumer and Rep. Lee for taking a firm stand on behalf of Will Clark. They have openly challenged the Governor and Atty General for ignoring the Supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution and highlighted the malicious and politically motivated prosecution of a dedicated ATF Special Agent. They have done so w/o regard to political fallout. We encourage EACH visitor to CUATF to send an email,fax or letter to these fine members of Congress.
It should be noted that although FLEOA is sometimes criticized for not being as agressive as they should be when dealing with ATF, they have really stepped up on defending SA Clark.
#27
Posted 09 October 2010 - 11:26 AM
#28
Posted 07 October 2010 - 05:20 PM
#29
Posted 04 October 2010 - 01:54 PM
#30
Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:18 PM
Good ideas! I would think exec staff would be supportive of this effort but prefer things not become "inflammatory", as was mentioned and which probably needs no explanation. There is no reason why fellow officers cannot support each other publicly and that's the point of the rally, isn't it? Solidarity between staff, agents and officers of ALL agencies should be encouraged in my opinion.ALL ATF employees should pass the word about the upcoming rally. Undoubtedly one of us will have to suffer another reprimand, for a simple all hands email encouraging attendance WHICH SHOULD be put out by a memeber of our courageous EXECUTIVE staff. Also every one need to post it on facebook and mass email friends. Someone should also contact the Washington Post. I will do it if anybody has a POC. Also, the National Peace Officers Memorial may post something also. Flyers posted on every agencys bulliten boards wouldn't hurt and wouldn't take a day to do.
If anyone reading these posts could pass the info along in whatever way they're comfortable, that should help quite a bit. Please keep checking the www.FLEOA.org website for all updates on times and location.
#31
Posted 01 October 2010 - 06:38 PM
#32
Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:28 AM
That is so unfortunate. I'm concerned that despite great effort, there wasn't enough exposure to the rally plan. There is another D.C. rally tentatively planned for Oct.13th (keep your eye on the www.fleoa.org website for details and confirmation). Any idea how to encourage a greater participation and alert more people to the plan? This doesn't have to be just federal agents - ALL law enforcement members are encouraged to attend. Anyone could be in Will's shoes.I was very disappointed in the turnout at yesterday's rally for Will Clark. There couldnt have been more than 25 people there, and with ATF HQ and also the Washington and Baltimore Field Divisions so close by. The weather sucked but the turnout was still despicable. The number of people showing support for Will should have been in the hundreds...not the 20's.
All agents and officers need to be aware that the usvi has been reluctant to grant peace officer status to federal agents. Hopefully you realize that equates to being less appreciated than VIPD officers. Even the dog catcher and lottery police in the US Virgin Islands have peace officer status. I don't know who is repsonsible for the oversight, but it has caused an enormous problem for one brave man.
#33
Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:35 AM
#34
Posted 29 September 2010 - 12:59 AM
#35
Posted 28 September 2010 - 04:19 PM
What Rally. Please give details.
Rally for Special Agent Will Clark to be held in Washington, DC this Thursday, Sept.30, 2010 at 11 a.m.
Flyer can be downloaded at www.FLEOA.org website - info on right hand of opening page.
Short notice, sorry, I'm new here.
#36
Posted 28 September 2010 - 04:14 PM
What Rally. Please give details.
#37
Posted 28 September 2010 - 03:44 PM
#38
Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:23 PM
Does everyone know about the Rally for Will on Sept.30th??
#39
Posted 28 September 2010 - 02:17 PM
I know that CNN has helped get the message out, but is anyone disturbed by the abundance of US Virgin Islands tourist ads being run on that network.
I try not to pay much attention to them. Beauty is only skin deep as they say.
#40
Posted 24 August 2010 - 12:11 PM
#41
Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:47 PM
This was my message.
Will,
I was thinking about you today.
I wanted to let you know that your situation has been a blessing to all ATF Agents. I know that you likely cannot process it on that level at this time. Your suffering and injustice will never ever be felt by any of us to the level that you have had to endure.
My point is this; your situation will likely prevent this from ever happening to another ATF Agent in our lifetimes all because of what you are going through here and now. I understand that point is of little consolation at this time. Your fight and the resiliency you’ve shown is one that benefits each and every person who ever has, or will, strap on a gun and hang a gold ATF badge around their neck.
Thank you from Jay Dobyns because what you are doing also benefits me as an ATF Agent. I am proud to be your brother agent and I consider you my friend. When this is soon over and you are enjoying full freedom without this hanging over your head I would like to travel at my personal expense to anywhere in the U.S. that you may be to buy you a shot of whiskey and toast your victory.
Much love to you my brutha. You are in my prayers and those of my family.
God saves up His most difficult problems and places them on the shoulders of His most courageous warriors. He clearly has chosen you. Many, many years from now I am quite sure that He has a special place in Heaven reserved especially for you.
Jay
I believe that Will’s response is a clear demonstration of the man he is and the character he holds. I asked Will if I could post his words. Coming from a man under pressures that very few will ever have to deal with, Will Clark shines through with an attitude that should make all of us proud to be ATF Agents.
Jay, I have been repeatedly asked “Would you have changed anything?” (i.e. in hindsight, would I have turned a blind eye and kept on truckin’). My answer: “No.”
Regardless of the outcome, the stress endured by my family, friends and fellow Agents, and the possibility of losing my son…I could not, cannot, and will not lose sight of why we do what we do. When and where there is danger, when and where there is violence, we put the safety of others before our own and we put the safety of our fellow Agents and Officers before our own… That is why we signed on – why we took an oath, and why ATF Agents and LEO’s from across the country have made the ultimate sacrifice.
We cannot run, we cannot hide (lest we should find a different line of work) – all we can do is fight. That is what I have been doing, and that is what I will continue to do. I find the strength to do so from the tremendous amount of support I have received. I always tell people to keep the prayers coming. I never turn them down and, more importantly, they are working! I also never turn down a shot of whiskey-so I would be honored to raise a glass with you…and toast to all of our brothers who lay it on the line day after day…and those who have paid their “dues” and can only be honored in memory
Thank you….and thank your family for me.
-Will
When you hit your knees at night, don’t forget Will Clark and his family.
#42 Guest_microscope_*
Posted 06 August 2010 - 09:02 AM
#43 Guest_Corny_*
Posted 24 July 2010 - 10:29 AM
Lets put our personal disputes temporarily on hold and rally behind Will Clark.
Nothing that any of us is facing short of an impending illness on our family or friends is more important than the freedom and safety of Will.
I look at myself and say I have an unresolved grievance with ATF and I feel that unfair. Then I ask would Will change positions with me? Yes, and likely in a heartbeat.
So...
Lets stand down for a short momement on our personal issues (not to forget them or let anyone slide) and support our brother who is wrongly accused and who's freedom is at stake.
Your brothers and sisters are behind you. God Bless Will Clark.
#44
Posted 24 July 2010 - 07:44 AM
TRUTH, JUSTICE & PEACE
THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN THE TRUTH - Madame Blavatsky, Theosophy
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 06:23 AM
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:53 PM
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