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#1 V01ce0fR3as0n

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 04:49 PM

Is there going to be ANY discipline for Potter and Nichols using taxpayer dollars to sport Cadillacs with lights and sirens, or are they just gonna give them to the State Department and pretend it didnt happen. How many times is Potters horrible Judgement going to be ignored before he is demoted?


Ha! Walk into Potter's office and look at the framed, shadow box collection of his cred's hanging on the wall. Notice those vacant slots under the glass? Hmmm, there's one for DAD, one for AD and one for what he hopes will be his Director's credentials. But now maybe he can just fill those slots with logos from Chrysler, Cadillac and whatever else is left of GM. Whoooo-hooo! You go, Mark! Hey, who's that sneaking around back there by the curtain? That's not OIG is it? Naw, not a chance.
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 04:42 PM

The rocket scientist that is responsible for this should really be fired. If this is not waste and abuse of authority, I do not know what is. Look at the public's comments for how the few idiots make the men and women of ATF look bad!

http://pajamasmedia....b-guns-part-iv/

This story speaks for itself!


Thor, what's the problem? So ATF claimed that some tin bodied, plastic pellet shooting airguns were firearms. That's nothing. Look at what ATF claims are good Federal managers. That's the big story, baby!
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:58 PM

The rocket scientist that is responsible for this should really be fired. If this is not waste and abuse of authority, I do not know what is. Look at the public's comments for how the few idiots make the men and women of ATF look bad! http://pajamasmedia....b-guns-part-iv/ This story speaks for itself!
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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:14 PM

Is there going to be ANY discipline for Potter and Nichols using taxpayer dollars to sport Cadillacs with lights and sirens, or are they just gonna give them to the State Department and pretend it didnt happen. How many times is Potters horrible Judgement going to be ignored before he is demoted?

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 07:15 AM

Regarding SAC Potter, how about when he reappropriated special funds in Atlanta to outfit himself with a high end Chrysler (there was talk that Mark toiled over which tire rims looked coolest)? Is this a pattern being ignored Mr. Melson? Then SAC Killorin taught Mark a REAL lesson by taking the new car for himself. Former SAC Killorin is now a high end contractor, still on the dole. Gosh, their seems to be a lot of former executives on the dole. Well. What is executive retirement plus an ATF contractor position worth these days, in this trouble economy?

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:23 AM

If Potter and Nichols did in fact allow Cadillacs to be ordered, have they been demoted? This sint Poatter first abuse of taxpayers dollars. He actually told the FIC in Atlanta when he was an ASAC, to order a very expensive commemorative box for a firearm that was going to be presented to Retiring SAC Killorin. The kicker, he ordered the employee to just "put it on your government credit card". The employee refused and asked Potter for HIS credit card. The matter was dropped. Go figure. I guess in the scheme of things a couple hundred wasted is far better than however much a Cadi costs.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 07:03 PM

Have the cadillacs been recalled or are Dana Nichols and whoever else decided to have their way with taxpayer money still sporting around in them? Have these bosses been demoted yet?

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:25 AM

Just go to show what some folks can do when they put their minds to it!
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:04 PM

I guess the spanking new Chrysler 300's that most of the shotcallers order for themselves just are not quite up to snuff for a few. They need to set themselves apart as special with the cherry Caddy's that are starting to surface.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:13 PM

The bigshots need all that police equipment so when the traffic is backed up on the way home they can drive on the shoulder of the freeway and not take a stop from the troopers. And, that comment wasn't inserted for sarcasm. Word is that some retired supe's have taken uninstalled light and siren packages with them upon exit from ATF and now have them on thier personal cars. Imagine how you could impress the nieghbors! The Caddy stories are history repeated, LA style. Years back the Phoenix office siezed a 2-door Mercedes drop top on a drug deal. Phoenix was under the LA Division. Then LA SAC Andy Vita, known in the field as the "Metrosexual SAC" for having his nails done during duty hours [no kidding] and before he became the Deputy Director, a position he uncerimoniosly left after getting busted out for leaving his business card at a whore house on the Montana/Canada border, ordered the Mercedes delivered to him out here. In Vita's defense, he did not illegally procure the car, just used his power to rob it from some UC agents who needed it. So while his agents were hustling cases in their Malibu's and Grand Fury's, Vita was cruising our city in highbrow style. Now lets look at the converse. Tom Brandon becomes the SAC in Detroit. His first move is to give up the nice SAC g-ride to the field agents and step down to a regular type g-ride. This is probably a small demonstration of why the vast majority of his agents love him. He puts his workers before himself. Servant leadership principles are amazing. We just rarely ever get to witness them at ATF.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:31 PM

Is Cadillac the new GOV of choice for GS-15's? According to the Philly agents I know, SAC Potter got himself a Caddy too. And he's making sure it's getting outfitted with lights and sirens, while the agents can't get any equipment [including trunk locks] for their ARRA cars. Why does a SAC or ASAC even need a police package?

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:38 PM

Most of the 5th floor in ATF took the boondoggle trip to Las Vegas to attend the Shot Show firearms trade show. Would all of them have gone to the same event if it was held in some snowed in Midwestern city? Of course not. I wasn’t about the Shot Show it was about the free trip on ATF’s dime to Las Vegas. This is not so much the problem as is they did it while an incredible amount of bad business needs their real time attention. Real ATF business, like maybe the survival of our agency! Mr. Melson, seriously, where is your judgment? Do you think no one notices or cares? Agents are routinely denied travel on investigations but you invite all these people to hang with you in Las Vegas on nonessential business? Did you get ANY bureau business done while you had your team together out there. What the original post did not mention is that they stayed at the Bellagio Resort. Not Harrah’s or the Trop or the Nugget or something less conspicuous. The Palms must have been sold out. Our ethics training constantly reminds us that the mere appearance of impropriety is not acceptable for government workers. What would you call this? I would love to see what the final tally against our budget this trip made. Add it all up. ATF has always thrived on the “work first, play second” mentality. I don’t begrudge anyone in ATF a trip. Our job does not have to be one of misery and 100% sacrifice. Take your wives along and enjoy some time away. But, when the real issues at hand are being ignored and stalled and the people we need to fix them are off having a good time it goes against everything that has made our bureau great. Why did all these people need to go to the Shot Show and what was accomplished by it? This tells all of us where our executives priorities are. Dana Nichols is the ASAC who decided that her personal luxury, comfort and style exceeded the needs of her field agents. When working agents can’t get the equipment they need to conduct investigations and then it surfaces that a self-important ASAC procures a Caddy for her g-ride, what does that say about the priorities of our leadership? If Chipman (I’m not sure the spelling is right but we all know who this topic is talking about) can personally manipulate the system under the noses of the entire executive staff and grease contractor jobs and overseas assignments, what message does that send to the people who earned and deserved consideration for those posts? It says that it doesn’t matter what you do or even how well you do it, the bottom line with ATF HQ is who you know. These events are a disgrace and they demonstrate that our leadership could really care less about what the field employees think or how their corruption affects us. Maybe Melson and Hoover and Chait and Ford and the rest of the Las Vegas all-stars figured out the solutions to our problems while they were hanging out. Are any of the questions I asked here inappropriate or out of line? More on all of this is yet to come.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:06 PM

I know many who read this will be outraged. Rightfully so. PLEASE TRY TO CONTAIN YOUR RAGE, KEEP YOUR RESPONSES PRODUCTIVE, HELPFUL AND PROFESSIONAL. By all accounts, the ATF house is burning down with regards to leadership, our mission and our budget. What is ATF's response? Send an army of Hq and field division people to the shot show in Las Vegas. This raises so many many questions we cannot address them all here. These will be better addressed by the Department of Justice OIG. 1. How many ATF people actually have a vested interest in the shot show or the industries represented. Was it really necessary to send The DD Melson, Exec. Asst to the Director(for which we have none right now) Hoover, ADFO Chait, IOI Director, PGA AD Ford, a score of other HQ personnel, BOTH ASACs from San Francisco and the SAC? Did the head of OST really have a dog in this hunt? Would it not have been better judgment to send a few key integral ATF personnel and have them provide a briefing paper to the others or even Bureau wide? When by all accounts our Bureaus budget will be exhausted by July, can we waste these valuable resources? How many worthwhile mission and training travel requests will be denied because the executive staff wanted a trip to Vegas? Would so many have jumped on the shot show if it were held in Sioux Falls? Who was watching the shop while our key players were kicking back in Vegas? 2. Perhaps if someone would have stayed back in HQ to handle the Bureaus REAL business, the ASAC in Chicago would not be driving around in a tricked out Cadillac that she went back channels to procure with ATF vehicle funds. YES ITS HER G RIDE. Yes she procured it w/o the divisions knowledge through a friend in HQ. We are not sure exactly how many G rides could have been purchased or outfitted for real ATF business but its surely more than one loaded Cadillac. At a time when our EEO's are being denied explosive storage containers,our field Agents are driving vehicle w/o emergency equipment to include Police radios, lights and sirens, she is buying a Cadillac as her G ride for home to work purposes. What makes this most egregious, is that ADFO Chait and the executive staff know,and are unsure how to handle this. Simple, FIRE her, for outrageous misuse of government authority and waste of taxpayer and Bureau funds. Its called misappropriation. We have been advised from numerous sources that the car IS tricked out, so that's something. The procurement official must be removed as should anyone who reviewed this request and signed off on it. How dare her, NUFF SAID. 3. When it was brought to the Bureaus attention that Chipman had tried to grease the skids for former ASAC Stankoweicz(sp), the 5th floor was outraged and tanked the contract offer for someone who had so blatantly and publicly disgraced the Bureau. That did not prevent him from sliding into some other non Bureau contracted position. The problem is, that Chipman has been manipulating the Bureau sponsored contractor to pad the BQL with friends. The net effect is that the truly qualified people are not being considered for the positions. It has also been stated that Chipman has delivered HIS version of the BQLs for these contract positions, demanding his buddies be placed at the top of the list. Yep fraud. That simple. Yep the 5th floor knows.




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